I am an avid OpenStreetMap user, and I like the Wikidata project very much.
That's why I proposed a OSM tag wikidata=* and I wasn't the only one to
think of this[1].

Making a wikidata element for every or some OSM elements is not quite
possible, at least for now. OSM objects don't have constant IDs like
Wikidata elements do. If you delete a city node, and make a new one with
all the same tags, nobody cares. That's why connecting Wikidata and OSM can
be made only one way, from OSM to Wikidata. The other direction can be made
only with querys like "a city within 10km from this coordinate", or "a city
with this name within borders of a country with this name". A project
"Permanent ID" is trying to do this[2]

First use of Wikidata in OpenStreetMap is a 1 to 1 mapping. A town element
in Wikidata is a place=town node in OSM. There can be only one in either
database. We tag this in OSM with a simple wikidata=Q1435.

But then there are more interesting uses, for example "artist of this
sculpture is Q313828", "architect of this building is Q12633257", "this
street is named after Q9036". I think this is the best marriage of both
projects so far. For example in OSM we can see all sculptures made by a
specific artist:


It would be great to see this information in Wikipedia.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Permanent_ID

2015-03-10 15:37 GMT+01:00 aude <aude.w...@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ]
>> I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could
>> be integrated with Wikidata.
>> The thing that I care the most in any software is internationalization.
>> Having a map in which all labels of towns, streets and everything else is
>> translated to all languages sounds like a super-wonderful thing.
>> Wikidata allows labeling everything, translating everything, and
>> attaching properties to everything, so it sounds like it could be a good
>> match.
>> But then the question of "what IS everything" came up. Wikidata was
>> created mostly with Wikipedia in mind, so Wikipedia's notability policies
>> influenced Wikidata. Roughly, Wikidata has items for every thing about
>> which there is, or can be, a Wikipedia article and for things that are
>> useful, or if it "fulfills some structural need
>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability>".
>> Towns obviously have or can a Wikipedia article about them, but probably
>> not every street or shop.
> At minimum, supporting Wikivoyage is within scope of Wikidata, so imho
> items for shops would be ok. (at least the ones that would be used in
> Wikivoyage)
> I am not sure about streets... maybe, it depends and is up to the
> community (what extent we want them) and scalability (technical and
> community) might be considerations.  As well, in Wikidata, we want
> references.
> For the OSM use case, for streets, I think the osm name tags are
> sufficient. Transliteration of street names definitely makes sense, but
> maybe can be autogenerated?
> In some cases multilingual (e.g. in Brussels), actual translations might
> be desired, and think osm supports that adequately.
> Katie
>> But do they fulfill a structural need or is it way too much?
>> If it's way too much, how can this be bridged, or federated, or whatever
>> the current popular word is? I don't even know exactly how does OSM store
>> labels and translations now, but it sounds like another instance of
>> Wikibase, if not Wikidata itself, can be used for it.
>> I don't have much to add, but I'd love to hear ideas from people who do
>> (again, Aude and Christian Consonni, I'm looking at you :) ).
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