Thanks all for the input! I would like to stress again that the first meeting with the CBS has yet to take place, but we will definitely take the views expressed here into account.
Best, Arne Wossink Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht 2015-08-08 13:10 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad <[email protected]>: > There have been some discussions about reuse of statistics with people > from Statistics Norway.[1] They use a format called JSON-stat.[2] A > bunch of census bureaus are starting to use JSON-stat, for example > Statistics Norway, UK’s Office for National Statistics, Statistics > Sweden, Statistics Denmark, Instituto Galego de Estatística, and > Central Statistics Office of Ireland. I've heard about other too. > > I have started on some rant at Meta about it, I didn't finish it.[3] > Perhaps more people will join in? ;) > > A central problem is that statistics are often produced as a > multidimensional dataset, where our topics are only single indices on > one of the dimensions. We can extract the relevant data, but it is > probably better to make a kind of composite key into the dataset to > identify the relevant stuff about our topic. That key can be stored as > a table-specific statement in Wikidata, and with a little bit of > planning it can be statistics-specific or even bureau-specific. > > [1] https://ssb.no/en/ > [2] http://json-stat.org/ > [3] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Import_and_visualize_census_data > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hypercubes and csv flat files belong in commons in my opinion (commons > may > > have a different opinion ). That's if we even want to store a copy. > > > > This source data should then be translated into wikidata triples and > > statements and imported into wikidata items. > > > > The statements in wikidata are then used to generate lists and tables and > > graphs and info graphics in wikipedia. > > > > At least that's how I see it > > > > Joe > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:00 Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I have used the CBS website to compile my own statistics for research. > >> Their data is completely available online as far as I know and you can > >> download the queries you run on the fly in .csv file format, or text or > >> excel. They have various data tables depending on what you find > interesting > >> and complete tables of historical data is also available. That said, I > think > >> any pilot project would need to start with their publications, which are > >> also available online. These can be freely used as sources for > statements. > >> Interesting data for Wikidata could be population statistics of major > cities > >> per century or employment statistics per city per century and so forth. > See > >> CBS.nl > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hoi, > >>> As far as I am concerned, data that is available on the web is fine if > >>> you use data on the web. It makes no difference when the data is to be > used > >>> in the context of the WMF. > >>> > >>> When the CBS shares data with us in Wikidata, it makes the data > available > >>> in Wikipedia. > >>> > >>> It is why I would like for something small, a pilot project something > >>> where we can build on. > >>> Thanks, > >>> GerardM > >>> > >>> On 6 August 2015 at 17:23, Thad Guidry <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Netherlands Statistics should just post the data on the web...so that > >>>> anyone can use its "Linked Data". > >>>> > >>>> And actually, CSV on the Web is now a reality (no longer a need for > >>>> XBRL) > >>>> > >>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015Jul/0016.html > >>>> > >>>> As DanBri notes in his P.S. at the bottom of the above link..."... the > >>>> ability (in the csv2rdf doc) to map from > >>>> > >>>> rows in a table via templates into RDF triples....is very powerful." > >>>> > >>>> Thad > >>>> +ThadGuidry > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikidata mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikidata mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikidata mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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