+1, make sure to bring someone from the project with you. Sjoerd de Bruin
> Op 13 aug. 2015 om 11:10 heeft Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > het volgende geschreven: > > Hoi, > Make sure that you take a Wikidata person with you. It makes a difference. > Maarten, Sjoerd, Jane, Edo, me.... they know the project and what we can do. > They will help them get their feet wet and not drown in all the technical > nitbits. > Thanks, > GerardM > >> On 13 August 2015 at 09:56, Arne Wossink <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks all for the input! I would like to stress again that the first >> meeting with the CBS has yet to take place, but we will definitely take the >> views expressed here into account. >> >> Best, >> >> >> Arne Wossink >> >> Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland >> >> Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 >> >> Postadres: Bezoekadres: >> Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 >> 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht >> >> 2015-08-08 13:10 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad <[email protected]>: >>> There have been some discussions about reuse of statistics with people >>> from Statistics Norway.[1] They use a format called JSON-stat.[2] A >>> bunch of census bureaus are starting to use JSON-stat, for example >>> Statistics Norway, UK’s Office for National Statistics, Statistics >>> Sweden, Statistics Denmark, Instituto Galego de Estatística, and >>> Central Statistics Office of Ireland. I've heard about other too. >>> >>> I have started on some rant at Meta about it, I didn't finish it.[3] >>> Perhaps more people will join in? ;) >>> >>> A central problem is that statistics are often produced as a >>> multidimensional dataset, where our topics are only single indices on >>> one of the dimensions. We can extract the relevant data, but it is >>> probably better to make a kind of composite key into the dataset to >>> identify the relevant stuff about our topic. That key can be stored as >>> a table-specific statement in Wikidata, and with a little bit of >>> planning it can be statistics-specific or even bureau-specific. >>> >>> [1] https://ssb.no/en/ >>> [2] http://json-stat.org/ >>> [3] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Import_and_visualize_census_data >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Hypercubes and csv flat files belong in commons in my opinion (commons >>> > may >>> > have a different opinion ). That's if we even want to store a copy. >>> > >>> > This source data should then be translated into wikidata triples and >>> > statements and imported into wikidata items. >>> > >>> > The statements in wikidata are then used to generate lists and tables and >>> > graphs and info graphics in wikipedia. >>> > >>> > At least that's how I see it >>> > >>> > Joe >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:00 Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I have used the CBS website to compile my own statistics for research. >>> >> Their data is completely available online as far as I know and you can >>> >> download the queries you run on the fly in .csv file format, or text or >>> >> excel. They have various data tables depending on what you find >>> >> interesting >>> >> and complete tables of historical data is also available. That said, I >>> >> think >>> >> any pilot project would need to start with their publications, which are >>> >> also available online. These can be freely used as sources for >>> >> statements. >>> >> Interesting data for Wikidata could be population statistics of major >>> >> cities >>> >> per century or employment statistics per city per century and so forth. >>> >> See >>> >> CBS.nl >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hoi, >>> >>> As far as I am concerned, data that is available on the web is fine if >>> >>> you use data on the web. It makes no difference when the data is to be >>> >>> used >>> >>> in the context of the WMF. >>> >>> >>> >>> When the CBS shares data with us in Wikidata, it makes the data >>> >>> available >>> >>> in Wikipedia. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is why I would like for something small, a pilot project something >>> >>> where we can build on. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> GerardM >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 August 2015 at 17:23, Thad Guidry <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Netherlands Statistics should just post the data on the web...so that >>> >>>> anyone can use its "Linked Data". >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And actually, CSV on the Web is now a reality (no longer a need for >>> >>>> XBRL) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015Jul/0016.html >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As DanBri notes in his P.S. at the bottom of the above link..."... the >>> >>>> ability (in the csv2rdf doc) to map from >>> >>>> >>> >>>> rows in a table via templates into RDF triples....is very powerful." >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thad >>> >>>> +ThadGuidry >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>> >>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wikidata mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikidata mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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