Depending on bots to set up symmetric relations is one of the things I find very weird in Wikidata. That creates a situation where a user do an edit, and a bot later on overrides the users previous edit. It is exactly the same race condition that we fought earlier with the iw-bots, but now replicated in Wikidata - a system that was supposed to remove the problem.
/me dumb, me confused.. o_O On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected] > wrote: > Am 28.09.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Thomas Douillard: > > Daniel Wrote: > >> (*) This follows the principle of "magic is bad, let people edit". > Allowing > >> inconsistencies means we can detect errors by finding such > inconsistencies. > >> Automatically enforcing consistency may lead to errors propagating out > of view > >> of the curation process. The QA process on wikis is centered around > edits, so > >> every change should be an edit. Using a bot to fill in missing > "reverse" links > >> follows this idea. The fact that you found an issue with the data > because you > >> saw a bot do an edit is an example of this principle working nicely. > > > > That might prove to become a worser nightmare than the magic one ... > It's seems > > like refusing any kind of automation because it might surprise people > for the > > sake of exhausting them to let them do a lot of manual work. > > I'm not arguing against "any" kind of automation. I'm arguing against > "invisible" automation baked into the backend software. We(*) very much > encourage "visible" automation under community control like bots and other > (semi-)automatic import tools like WiDaR. > > -- daniel > > > (*) I'm part of the wikidata developer team, not an active member of the > community. I'm primarily speaking for myself here, from my personal > experience > as a wikipedia and common admin. I know from past discussions that "bots > over > magic" is considered Best Practice among the dev team, and I believe it's > also > the approach preferred by the Wikidata community, but I cannot speak for > them. > > > -- > Daniel Kinzler > Senior Software Developer > > Wikimedia Deutschland > Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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