Gerard, I was referring to the user interface for the API to Wikidata, not the Wikidata user interface. So when I type in "Leo Gestel" to the [1] Api demo interface I get the info back, but only if I click the option "View on QueryR" do I see the access syntax (2]. I think the user interface should accept Q and P numbers, not labels, though it could provide a lookup gadget.
[1] http://queryr.wmflabs.org/about/demo [2] http://queryr.wmflabs.org/api/items/Q597999 On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > In the browsers that I use, when you hover over a property it shows both > in Reasonator and in Wikidata .. Hope it helps. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 1 December 2015 at 10:24, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have proposed several properties on Wikidata and discovered others by >> browsing items. Using shortcuts I don't need to type in the full names of >> things. Frankly there is no way I would be able to guess the property >> labels in English, let alone any other language. I still need to go to an >> item to look up both the property name and the property number I am looking >> for. Many properties have an item that links to an article somewhere that >> will tell you more, but most do not. I think it is important to keep to the >> Q- and P- numbers in anything one does on Wikidata, since that is one of >> the things it was designed to do, namely to create permanent identifiers >> for concepts that flip around a lot in terms of wiki titles. >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> You are right. However, Hay was critiqued for his approach. Arguably he >>> is absolutely using the right approach for his use case. >>> >>> When you state that people have to go back to Wikidata, it is easier to >>> search for a label than it is to search for an ID. When you are developing >>> software and you use whatever technology, please appreciate that in the >>> final analysis what you create is to be used. JSON, the REST API are for >>> developers but it is a technique not a tool. What Hay demonstrates is a >>> usable tool. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 1 December 2015 at 09:14, Stas Malyshev <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> > It may not be stable but it is what PEOPLE understand. What you can do >>>> >>>> This is not as simple as it seems. First, people usually understand only >>>> one language version - thus, we'd have 200 URIs referring to the same >>>> object, but that's not the main issue I see with it. The main issue is >>>> that the name is not always trivial to guess - so you'd have to go to >>>> wikidata and look it up anyway (especially if not all languages are >>>> supported). And, also, if you use English name and somebody uses Russian >>>> interface, they may not even know that's the same property without >>>> looking up on Wikidata. >>>> So yes, when displaying, label is what people want. But when using the >>>> API - not so sure. >>>> >>>> > <grin> I salute the effort and I appreciate the critique </grin> >>>> however >>>> > many approaches do not have ordinary people in mind but are from ones >>>> > own perspective. When that is of a developer of a data scientist it is >>>> > often correct but hardly usable. >>>> >>>> What you mean by "ordinary people" here? If you mean random person >>>> selected out of 7 billions living on a planet, chances are they won't >>>> know the first thing about what REST API is, what JSON is and what that >>>> thing is all about. So we are talking about very specific narrow >>>> category of people who do know what REST API is and need it and know how >>>> to use it. So you can make some assumptions here which are not true in >>>> general population, but may be true amongst REST-API-using population. >>>> -- >>>> Stas Malyshev >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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