Hoi,
What I hear is that the intentions were wrong in that you did not
anticipate people to get actual meaningful requests out of it.
When you state "we have two choices", you imply that it is my choice as
well. It is not. The answer that I am looking for is yes, it does not
function as we would like, we are working on it and in the mean time we
will ensure that toolkit is available on Labs for the more complex queries.
Wikidata is a service and the service is in need of being better.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 11 February 2016 at 12:32, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
> Am 11.02.2016 um 10:17 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
> > Your response is technical and seriously, query is a tool and it should
> function
> > for people. When the tool is not good enough fix it.
>
> What I hear: "A hammer is a tool, it should work for people. Tearing down a
> building with it takes forever, so fix the hammer!"
>
> The query service was never intended to run arbitrarily large or complex
> queries. Sure, would be nice, but that also means committing an arbitrary
> amount
> of resources to a single request. We don't have arbitrary amounts of
> resources.
>
> We basically have two choices: either we offer a limited interface that
> only
> allows for a narrow range of queries to be run at all. Or we offer a very
> general interface that can run arbitrary queries, but we impose limits on
> time
> and memory consumption. I would actually prefer the first option, because
> it's
> more predictable, and doesn't get people's hopes up too far. What do you
> think?
>
> Oh, and +1 for making it easy to use WDT on labs.
>
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> Daniel Kinzler
> Senior Software Developer
>
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