I think not doing anything at all when the item is presumed not notable is
a bad thing, especially when we have datas. We should be able to at least
generate a description in those cases, maybe in a popup way.

Why not, just not showing the "create" button instead ?

2016-04-03 16:27 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad <[email protected]>:

> Just read through the doc, and found some important points. I post each
> one in a separate mail.
>
> > Since it is hard to decide which content is actually notable, the items
> appear-
> > ing in the search should be limited to the ones having at least one
> statements
> > and two sitelinks to the same project (like Wikipedia or Wikivoyage).
>
> This is a good baseline, but figuring out what is notable locally is a bit
> more involved. A language is used in a local area, and within that area
> some items are more important just because they reside within the area.
> This is quite noticeable in the differences between nnwiki and nowiki which
> both basically covers "Norway". Also items that somehow relates to the
> local area or language is more noticeable than those outside those areas.
> By traversing upwords in the claims using the "part of" property it is
> possible to build a priority on the area involved. It is possible to
> traverse "nationality" and a few other properties.
>
> Things directly noticeable like an area enclosed in an area using the
> language is somewhat easy to identify, but things that are noticeable by
> association with another noticeable thing is not. Like a Danish slave ship
> operated by a Norwegian firm, the ship is thus noticeable in nowiki. I
> would say that all things linked as an item from other noticeable things
> should be included. Some would perhaps say that "items with second order
> relevance should be included".
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Luis Villa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016, 4:34 AM Lucie Kaffee <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wrote my Bachelor's thesis on "Generating Article Placeholders from
>>> Wikidata for Wikipedia: Increasing Access to Free and Open Knowledge". The
>>> thesis summarizes a lot of the work done on the ArticlePlaceholder
>>> extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticlePlaceholder
>>> )
>>>
>>> I uploaded the thesis to commons under a CC-BY-SA license- you can find
>>> it at
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Generating_Article_Placeholders_from_Wikidata_for_Wikipedia_-_Increasing_Access_to_Free_and_Open_Knowledge.pdf
>>>
>>> I continue working on the extension and aim to deploy it to the first
>>> Wikipedias, that are interested, in the next months.
>>>
>>> I am happy to answer questions related to the extension!
>>>
>>
>> Great work on something that I *believe *has a lot of promise - thanks!
>> I really think this approach has a lot of promise to help take back some
>> readership from Google, and potentially in the long-run drive more new
>> editors as well. (I know that was part of the theory of LSJbot, though I
>> don't know if anyone has actually a/b tested that.)
>>
>> I was somewhat surprised to not see data collection discussed in Section
>> 8.10 - are there plans to do that? I would have expected to see a/b testing
>> discussed as part of the deployment methodology, so that it could be
>> compared both to the current baseline and also to similar approaches (like
>> the ones you survey in Section 3).
>>
>> Thanks again for the hard work here-
>>
>> Luis
>>
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