Three cheers for these scripts, Magnus! Scott
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Magnus Manske <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, > it lets you > *drag'n'drop references between statements > *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto > statements > *drag'n'drop Wikipedia links as new statements (asks for a property to use) > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/dragref.js > > Maybe it helps, a little. > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 6:16 PM Magnus Manske <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on >> it for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is >> nothing equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK. The >> Wikidata UI is improved constantly, but I don't think there is anyone, let >> alone a whole team, developing massive new UI features. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> These are great, important suggestions. But like with the library >>> science resources, it seems like Wikidata is again trying to re-invent an >>> existing wheel. Why are the existing tools in Wikipedia not being migrated >>> and/or pathway'd into Wikidata? The stripping of Wikipedia citations to >>> push it to Wikidata often / always (?) denudes the information of what is a >>> very rigorous requirement on Wiki. >>> >>> I love the Citoid option, or whatever has been deployed for the Wiki >>> Markup editor when you put an ISBN number, OCLC number, or NYTimes URL into >>> the lookups there. There is no interchangeability with Wikidata though? >>> >>> #WikiCite :-) >>> >>> Agree on the {{citation needed}} button, Finn! ha! >>> >>> - Erika >>> >>> >>> *Erika Herzog* >>> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Magnus Manske < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously >>>> overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve >>>> Wikidata. >>>> One component here would be a social one, namely that it first becomes >>>> good practice, then the default, to cite statements. >>>> For that, improved technology and new approaches are required. >>>> Suggestions include: >>>> * Open a blank reference box when adding a statement in the default >>>> editor, thus subtly prompting a reference >>>> * Show a "smart field" for reference adding, e.g. just paste a URL, and >>>> it registers it's an URL, suggests a title from the page at the URL, adds >>>> access date, suggests other data that can be inferred from the URL or the >>>> linked page, shows likely other fields (e.g. "author" or such) for easy >>>> fill-in >>>> * Automatically add references for statements via external IDs. I have >>>> a bot that does that to some degree, but it could use productizing >>>> * Tools to "migrate" Wikipedia references to the actual sources. >>>> (Again, I have some, but...) >>>> * "Reference mode", to quickly add references to statements. (I have a >>>> drag'n'drop script, but that breaks on every Wikidata UI update) >>>> * A list of items/statements that are in "priority need" for >>>> referencing. For example, death dates of the recently deceased should be >>>> simple, while they are still in the news. >>>> * Dedicated drives to complete a "set" (e.g. all women chemists), that >>>> is, have all statements references in those items >>>> * Special watchlist for new statements without reference, especially on >>>> otherwise "completely referenced" items >>>> >>>> Magnus >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:56 PM Brill Lyle <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *blanket, not blanked... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - 415 480 4577 - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 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