On 2016-08-11 22:29, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > On 11.08.2016 18:45, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> has a statement "population: 20,086 (point in time: 2011)" that is >> confirmed by a reference. Nevertheless, the statement is marked as >> "deprecated". This would mean that the statement "the popluation was >> 20,086 in 2011" is wrong. As far as I can tell, this is not the case. >> >> >> I wouldn't say that with a deprecated rank, that statement is "wrong". I >> consider de term deprecated to indicate that a given statement is no >> longer valid in the context of a given resource (reference). I agree, in >> this specific case the use of the deprecated rank is wrong, since no >> references are given to that specific statement. >> Nevertheless, I think it is possible to have disagreeing resources on an >> identical statement, where two identical statements exists, one with >> rank "deprecated" and one with rank "normal". It is up to the user to >> decide which source s/he trusts. >> > > The status "deprecated" is part of the claim of the statement. The > reference is supposed to support this claim, which in this case is > also the claim that it is deprecated. The status is not meant to > deprecate a reference (not saying that this is never useful, > potentially, but you can only use it in one way, and it seems much > more practical if deprecated statements get references that explain > why they are deprecated). >
Yes. I think a complete deprecated statement should look like this : Rank: Deprecated Value: <some value> Qualifier: P2241:reason for deprecation + <some reason> References * P248:Stated in (or any other property for a reference) --> a reference where the value is true (explaining why we added it) Value: <name of the reference> + any additional qualifiers * P1310:statement disputed by --> a reference explaining why the claim is deprecated Value: <name of the reference> + any additional qualifiers JL aka Melderick
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