Andy: Did it occur to you that maybe there were no objections because there was no visibility to the request?
Quite frankly, I am amenable to these changes and support pushing granulated data like this and Authority Control to Wikidata. I am. I recognize the value of these efforts, and how great it will be for Wikidata and Wikipedia. However, without proper user-friendly documentation -- not just a template page update that unless you are familiar with templates it will be unintelligible, but a proper set of documentation for newbies and experienced editor alike -- and just as importantly, without communicating this change effectively to the larger spectrum of Wikipedia and Wikidata editors, this approach comes off as a rogue effort. Of concern: I see a list of Bot changes you are initiating here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89_bot/Wikidata_external_link_template_parameter_removal It is NOT a trivial amount of items, and will have an impact on both Wikipedia and Wikidata. I am doing nothing wrong here by asking these questions. How you choose to respond and take the questions is your problem. I don't want to take up any further bandwith on Wikidata's mailing list, as it has been explained to me that this is a Wikipedia project issue, not a Wikidata issue. Although the data will now reside and live on Wikidata's project pages. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9 October 2016 at 12:34, Brill Lyle <[email protected]> wrote: > > So I have been noticing that Twitter links often found in the External > link section is starting to move to Wikidata on English Wikipedia. > {{Twitter}} template is used much like with {{Authority control}} > > > > Was there consensus or discussion about this before it's implementation? > I am hoping there is also really good documentation so Wikipedia editors > know how to create and/or edit this value. > > You have posted about this on at least three different venues on > en.Wikipedia; I answered your original question at: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89#Twitter_--.3E_Wikidata > > and your subsequent comment at: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Twitter#Wikidata > > > Apologies if I didn't see this mentioned or addressed previously > > Despite this apology, in each of the three conversations, started > afterwards, you said you were "very concerned about the lack of > transparency and notification". My first response, linked above, > includes a link to the notification, which was in place for several > weeks before the edits were made, and which invited objections, but > attracted none. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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