Thanks Gerard, The end use is to have a task list for the Black Lunch Table Project initiative on Wikipedia that would be automated -- so that it could be queried by location and gender in a user-friendly way (like in a table) for Wikipedia editathons.
We set up categories in Wikipedia (if they have pages) and Wikimedia Commons (if they have images) -- and also set up a Wikidata item for both categories on Wikidata. The residence field was used as a way to connect the artist to a community. Then a Wikidata item would be created and/or updated for artists who had existing Wikipedia pages (or not) -- and tagged with these elements. It seems like this would work but I haven't heard of any Wikipedia initiatives that had successfully implemented Wikidata as a way to manage and granulate their task lists. And Magnus' table bot looks like another solution but this is all new to me, so thought that the community here might have advice and/or guidance. Best, - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > It is relatively easy to include info for all these people. The question > is not if it can be done, the question is much more what do you want out of > it. Including these people in a list is easy but you need something that > combines. them otherwise there is no point as you cannot query them. > > The notion of notability in Wikidata is different but it is not smart to > include info that is not connected. The most relevant thing in Wikidata > seen as a standalone project is how things connect. The value is in the > statements it means that for me links to Wikipedia are secondary. > > When you want to use Wikidata properly it is therefore not only important > to define the information that you want, it is evn more important to know > how you are going to use this information and how you are going to > establish that the information at Wikidata is maintained. > > So yes, having a list is no problem but as in any tool, value is added > when you take the tool seriously. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 5 February 2017 at 09:51, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Wikidatans, >> >> Inspired by the Zika corpus project at WikiCite 2016,[1] I wanted to see >> if it was (a) possible and (b) practical to set up an automatically >> updating table (ideally for use in Wikipedia but pulling from Wikidata) >> that would allow the Black Lunch Table Project initiative on Wikipedia to >> automate and customize their Task List -- which is somewhat massive.[2] >> >> Heather Hart from Black Lunch Table holds editathons all over North >> America,[3] and I think they will be intersectional with some of the other >> Wikipedia initiatives. So for events in places like North Carolina or New >> Orleans, it would be helpful for her to be able to pull artists from those >> communities. And for Art+Feminism in March, it would be helpful for her to >> be able to pull artists who are female-identifying. >> >> We set up some categories as a way to granulate a possible SPARQL query: >> >> - Wikipedia category: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Visual_artists_of_the >> _African_diaspora >> >> - Wikimedia Commons category: >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Visual_artists_o >> f_the_African_diaspora >> >> Wikidata item: >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28654190 >> >> Right now the task list is approaching 1,000 entries, and I assume the >> task list will only grow as it is a crowdsourced list. It is understood >> that obviously not all entrants are notable, and many are at mid-career >> levels, so even a stub might be stretching it to be on Wikipedia. But a >> solid percentage are definitely notable and are deserving of pages. >> >> I was also thinking that this sort of functionality would be helpful for >> other initiatives -- maybe also Art+Feminism -- so this process might be >> transferrable for others too. >> >> Goal: To automate the task list process somewhat. >> >> And at minimum would be a good Wikidata project. >> >> I think that even exploring the possibilities here has been very fruitful >> and illustrative of Wikidata's functionality for both myself and >> Heather/Black Lunch Table Project. I think it might also provide very >> positive outreach for others as well. >> >> Best, >> >> - Erika >> >> >> [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_Me >> taData/Wikidata_lists/Items_about_Zika_virus_or_fever >> >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_T >> able/Lists_of_Articles >> >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lun >> ch_Table/Event_Archive >> >> >> >> *Erika Herzog* >> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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