Just to update everyone in this thread, I have added location support for
Mix'n'match. This will show on entries with a location, e.g.:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/entry/1655814

All Mix'n'match locations (just short of half a million at the moment) can
be seen as a layer in WikiShootMe, e.g.:

https://goo.gl/kqfjoj

Cheers,
Magnus

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM Neubert, Joachim <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Osma,
>
> sorry for jumping in late. I've been at ELAG last week, talking about a
> very similar topic (Wikidata as authority linking hub,
> https://hackmd.io/p/S1YmXWC0e). Our use case was porting an existing
> mapping between RePEc author IDs and GND IDs into Wikidata (and furtheron
> extending it there). In that course, we had to match as many persons as
> possible on the GND as well as on the RePEc side (via Mix'n'match), before
> creating new items. The code used for preparing the (quickstatements2)
> insert statements is linked from the slides.
>
> Additionally, I've added ~12,000 GND IDs to Wikidata via their existing
> VIAF identifiers (derived from a federated query on a custom VIAF endpoint
> and the public WD endpoint -
> https://github.com/zbw/sparql-queries/blob/master/viaf/missing_gnd_id_for_viaf.rq).
> This sounds very similar to your use case; also another query which can
> derive future STW ID properties from the existing STW-GND mapping (
> https://github.com/zbw/sparql-queries/blob/master/stw/wikidata_mapping_candidates_via_gnd.rq
> - currently hits a timeout at the WD subquery, but worked before). I would
> be happy if that could be helpful.
>
> The plan to divide the m'n'm catalogs (places vs. subjects) makes sense
> for me, we plan the same for STW. I'm not sure, if a restriction to
> locations (Q17334923, or something more specific) will match also all
> subclasses, but Magnus could perhaps take care of that when you send him
> the files.
>
> Cheers, Joachim
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Wikidata [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag
> von
> > Osma Suominen
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juni 2017 12:19
> > An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
> > Betreff: [Wikidata] Mix'n'Match with existing (indirect) mappings
> >
> > Hi Wikidatans,
> >
> > After several delays we are finally starting to think seriously about
> mapping the
> > General Finnish Ontology YSO [1] to Wikidata. A "YSO ID"
> > property (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2347) was added to
> > Wikidata some time ago, but it has been used only a few times so far.
> >
> > Recently some 6000 places have been added to "YSO Places" [2], a new
> > extension of YSO, which was generated from place names in YSA and Allärs,
> > our earlier subject indexing vocabularies. It would probably make sense
> to map
> > these places to Wikidata, in addition to the general concepts in YSO. We
> have
> > already manually added a few links from YSA/YSO places to Wikidata for
> newly
> > added places, but this approach does not scale if we want to link the
> thousands
> > of existing places.
> >
> > We also have some indirect sources of YSO/Wikidata mappings:
> >
> > 1. YSO is mapped to LCSH, and Wikidata also to LCSH (using P244, LC/NACO
> > Authority File ID). I digged a bit into both sets of mappings and found
> that
> > approximately 1200 YSO-Wikidata links could be generated from the
> > intersection of these mappings.
> >
> > 2. The Finnish broadcasting company Yle has also created some mappings
> > between KOKO (which includes YSO) and Wikidata. Last time I looked at
> those,
> > we could generate at least 5000 YSO-Wikidata links from them.
> > Probably more nowadays.
> >
> >
> > Of course, indirect mappings are a bit dangerous. It's possible that
> there are
> > some differences in meaning, especially with LCSH which has a very
> different
> > structure (and cultural context) than YSO. Nevertheless I think these
> could be a
> > good starting point, especially if a tool such as Mix'n'Match could be
> used to
> > verify them.
> >
> > Now my question is, given that we already have or could easily generate
> > thousands of Wikidata-YSO mappings, but the rest would still have to be
> semi-
> > automatically linked using Mix'n'Match, what would be a good way to
> > approach this? Does Mix'n'Match look at existing statements (in this
> case YSO
> > ID / P2347) in Wikidata when you load a new catalog, or ignore them?
> >
> > I can think of at least these approaches:
> >
> > 1. First import the indirect mappings we already have to Wikidata as
> > P2347 statements, then create a Mix'n'Match catalog with the remaining
> YSO
> > concepts. The indirect mappings would have to be verified separately.
> >
> > 2. First import the indirect mappings we already have to Wikidata as
> > P2347 statements, then create a Mix'n'Match catalog with ALL the YSO
> > concepts, including the ones for which we already have imported a
> mapping.
> > Use Mix'n'Match to verify the indirect mappings.
> >
> > 3. Forget about the existing mappings and just create a Mix'n'Match
> catalog
> > with all the YSO concepts.
> >
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Osma
> >
> > [1] http://finto.fi/yso/
> >
> > [2] http://finto.fi/yso-paikat/
> >
> > --
> > Osma Suominen
> > D.Sc. (Tech), Information Systems Specialist National Library of Finland
> P.O. Box
> > 26 (Kaikukatu 4)
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