Now at https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/473

Location data as well, example:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/entry/22733305


On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 2:40 PM Osma Suominen <osma.suomi...@helsinki.fi>
wrote:

> Hi Magnus!
>
> That's excellent news! Thanks a lot!
>
> I'm currently preparing a CSV dump of YSO places. Most of the entries
> have coordinates. I will send it to you soon for inclusion as a catalog
> in Mix'n'match.
>
> -Osma
>
> Magnus Manske kirjoitti 16.06.2017 klo 00:00:
> > Just to update everyone in this thread, I have added location support
> > for Mix'n'match. This will show on entries with a location, e.g.:
> >
> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/entry/1655814
> >
> > All Mix'n'match locations (just short of half a million at the moment)
> > can be seen as a layer in WikiShootMe, e.g.:
> >
> > https://goo.gl/kqfjoj
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Magnus
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM Neubert, Joachim <j.neub...@zbw.eu
> > <mailto:j.neub...@zbw.eu>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Osma,
> >
> >     sorry for jumping in late. I've been at ELAG last week, talking
> >     about a very similar topic (Wikidata as authority linking hub,
> >     https://hackmd.io/p/S1YmXWC0e). Our use case was porting an existing
> >     mapping between RePEc author IDs and GND IDs into Wikidata (and
> >     furtheron extending it there). In that course, we had to match as
> >     many persons as possible on the GND as well as on the RePEc side
> >     (via Mix'n'match), before creating new items. The code used for
> >     preparing the (quickstatements2) insert statements is linked from
> >     the slides.
> >
> >     Additionally, I've added ~12,000 GND IDs to Wikidata via their
> >     existing VIAF identifiers (derived from a federated query on a
> >     custom VIAF endpoint and the public WD endpoint -
> >
> https://github.com/zbw/sparql-queries/blob/master/viaf/missing_gnd_id_for_viaf.rq
> ).
> >     This sounds very similar to your use case; also another query which
> >     can derive future STW ID properties from the existing STW-GND
> >     mapping
> >     (
> https://github.com/zbw/sparql-queries/blob/master/stw/wikidata_mapping_candidates_via_gnd.rq
> >     - currently hits a timeout at the WD subquery, but worked before). I
> >     would be happy if that could be helpful.
> >
> >     The plan to divide the m'n'm catalogs (places vs. subjects) makes
> >     sense for me, we plan the same for STW. I'm not sure, if a
> >     restriction to locations (Q17334923, or something more specific)
> >     will match also all subclasses, but Magnus could perhaps take care
> >     of that when you send him the files.
> >
> >     Cheers, Joachim
> >
> >      > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >      > Von: Wikidata [mailto:wikidata-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
> >     <mailto:wikidata-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>] Im Auftrag von
> >      > Osma Suominen
> >      > Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juni 2017 12:19
> >      > An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
> >      > Betreff: [Wikidata] Mix'n'Match with existing (indirect) mappings
> >      >
> >      > Hi Wikidatans,
> >      >
> >      > After several delays we are finally starting to think seriously
> >     about mapping the
> >      > General Finnish Ontology YSO [1] to Wikidata. A "YSO ID"
> >      > property (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2347) was
> added to
> >      > Wikidata some time ago, but it has been used only a few times so
> far.
> >      >
> >      > Recently some 6000 places have been added to "YSO Places" [2], a
> new
> >      > extension of YSO, which was generated from place names in YSA and
> >     Allärs,
> >      > our earlier subject indexing vocabularies. It would probably make
> >     sense to map
> >      > these places to Wikidata, in addition to the general concepts in
> >     YSO. We have
> >      > already manually added a few links from YSA/YSO places to
> >     Wikidata for newly
> >      > added places, but this approach does not scale if we want to link
> >     the thousands
> >      > of existing places.
> >      >
> >      > We also have some indirect sources of YSO/Wikidata mappings:
> >      >
> >      > 1. YSO is mapped to LCSH, and Wikidata also to LCSH (using P244,
> >     LC/NACO
> >      > Authority File ID). I digged a bit into both sets of mappings and
> >     found that
> >      > approximately 1200 YSO-Wikidata links could be generated from the
> >      > intersection of these mappings.
> >      >
> >      > 2. The Finnish broadcasting company Yle has also created some
> >     mappings
> >      > between KOKO (which includes YSO) and Wikidata. Last time I
> >     looked at those,
> >      > we could generate at least 5000 YSO-Wikidata links from them.
> >      > Probably more nowadays.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Of course, indirect mappings are a bit dangerous. It's possible
> >     that there are
> >      > some differences in meaning, especially with LCSH which has a
> >     very different
> >      > structure (and cultural context) than YSO. Nevertheless I think
> >     these could be a
> >      > good starting point, especially if a tool such as Mix'n'Match
> >     could be used to
> >      > verify them.
> >      >
> >      > Now my question is, given that we already have or could easily
> >     generate
> >      > thousands of Wikidata-YSO mappings, but the rest would still have
> >     to be semi-
> >      > automatically linked using Mix'n'Match, what would be a good way
> to
> >      > approach this? Does Mix'n'Match look at existing statements (in
> >     this case YSO
> >      > ID / P2347) in Wikidata when you load a new catalog, or ignore
> them?
> >      >
> >      > I can think of at least these approaches:
> >      >
> >      > 1. First import the indirect mappings we already have to Wikidata
> as
> >      > P2347 statements, then create a Mix'n'Match catalog with the
> >     remaining YSO
> >      > concepts. The indirect mappings would have to be verified
> separately.
> >      >
> >      > 2. First import the indirect mappings we already have to Wikidata
> as
> >      > P2347 statements, then create a Mix'n'Match catalog with ALL the
> YSO
> >      > concepts, including the ones for which we already have imported a
> >     mapping.
> >      > Use Mix'n'Match to verify the indirect mappings.
> >      >
> >      > 3. Forget about the existing mappings and just create a
> >     Mix'n'Match catalog
> >      > with all the YSO concepts.
> >      >
> >      > Any advice?
> >      >
> >      > Thanks,
> >      >
> >      > -Osma
> >      >
> >      > [1] http://finto.fi/yso/
> >      >
> >      > [2] http://finto.fi/yso-paikat/
> >      >
> >      > --
> >      > Osma Suominen
> >      > D.Sc. (Tech), Information Systems Specialist National Library of
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