And thanks for the use cases. This helps a lot with thinking about this.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017, 16:31 Denny Vrandečić <[email protected]> wrote:

> The reason why we save the actual value with more digits than the
> precision (and why we keep the precision as an explicit value at all) is
> because the value could be entered and displayed either as decimal digits
> or in minutes and seconds. So internally one would save 20' as 0.333333333,
> but the precision is still just 2. This allows to roundtrip.
>
> I hope that makes any sense?
>
> Yes, that means that using the values for comparison without taking the
> prevision into account will fail.
>
> I don't think comparison and other operators were ever specified for the
> datetypes. This has bitten us before, and I think it would be valuable to
> do. And that would resolve these issues, and some others.
>
> Would there be people interested in doing that? I sure would love to get
> it right.
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017, 16:17 Stas Malyshev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> > I am not sure I understand the issue and what the suggestion is to solve
>> > it. If we decide to arbitrarily reduce the possible range for the
>>
>> Well, there are actually several issues right now.
>>
>> 1. Our RDF output produces coordinates with more digits that specified
>> precision of the actual value.
>> 2. Our precision values as specified in wikibase:geoPrecision seem to
>> make little sense.
>> 3. We may represent the same coordinates for objects located in the same
>> place as different ones because of precision values being kinda chaotic.
>> 4. We may have different data from other databases because our
>> coordinate is over-precise.
>>
>> (1) is probably easiest to fix. (2) is a bit harder, and I am still not
>> sure how wikibase:geoPrecision is used, if at all.
>> (3) and (4) are less important, but it would be nice to improve, and
>> maybe they will be mostly fixed once (1) and (2) are fixed. But before
>> approaching the fix, I wanted to understand what are expectations from
>> precision and if there can or should be some limits there. Technically,
>> it doesn't matter too much - except that some formulae for distances do
>> not work well for high precisions because of limited accuracy of 64-bit
>> double, but there are ways around it. So technically we can keep 9
>> digits or however many we need, if we wanted to. I just wanted to see if
>> we should.
>>
>> --
>> Stas Malyshev
>> [email protected]
>>
>
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