I'm pretty sure that Wikidata is doing better than 90% of the current
bubbles in the diagram.

If they wanted to have Wikidata in the diagram it would have been there
before it was too small to read it. :)

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 7:47 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider <
pfpschnei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the corrections.
>
> So https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q42 is *the* Wikidata IRI for Douglas
> Adams.  Retrieving from this IRI results in a 303 See Other to
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42, which (I guess) is
> the
> main IRI for representations of Douglas Adams and other pages with
> information about him.
>
> From https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42 content
> negotiation can be used to get the JSON representation (the default), other
> representations including Turtle, and human-readable information.  (Well
> actually I'm not sure that this is really correct.  It appears that instead
> of directly using content negotiation, another 303 See Other is used to
> provide an IRI for a document in the requested format.)
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42.json and
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42.ttl are the useful
> machine-readable documents containing the Wikidata information about
> Douglas
> Adams.  Content negotiation is not possible on these pages.
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 is the IRI that produces a
> human-readable
> version of the information about Douglas Adams.  Content negotiation is not
> possible on this page, but it does have link rel="alternate" to the
> machine-readable pages.
>
> Strangely this page has a link rel="canonical" to itself.  Shouldn't that
> link be to https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q42?  There is a human-visible
> link to this IRI, but there doesn't appear to be any machine-readable link.
>
> RDF links to other IRIs for Douglas Adams are given in RDF pages by
> properties in the wdtn namespace.  Many, but not all, identifiers are
> handled this way.  (Strangely ISNI (P213) isn't even though it is linked on
> the human-readable page.)
>
> So it looks as if Wikidata can be considered as Linked Open Data but maybe
> some improvements can be made.
>
>
> peter
>
>
>
> On 05/01/2018 01:03 AM, Antoine Zimmermann wrote:
> > On 01/05/2018 03:25, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> >> As far as I can tell real IRIs for Wikidata are https URIs.  The http
> IRIs
> >> redirect to https IRIs.
> >
> > That's right.
> >
> >>   As far as I can tell no content negotiation is
> >> done.
> >
> > No, you're mistaken. Your tried the URL of a wikipage in your curl
> command.
> > Those are for human consumption, thus not available in turtle.
> >
> > The "real IRIs" of Wikidata entities are like this:
> > https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q{NUMBER}
> >
> > However, they 303 redirect to
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER}
> >
> > which is the identifier of a schema:Dataset. Then, if you HTTP GET these
> > URIs, you can content negotiate them to JSON
> > (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER}.json) or to
> > turtle (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER}.ttl).
> >
> >
> > Suprisingly, there is no connection between the entity IRIs and the
> wikipage
> > URLs. If one was given the IRI of an entity from Wikidata, and had no
> > further information about how Wikidata works, they would not be able to
> > retrieve HTML content about the entity.
> >
> >
> > BTW, I'm not sure the implementation of content negotiation in Wikidata
> is
> > correct because the server does not tell me the format of the resource to
> > which it redirects (as opposed to what DBpedia does, for instance).
> >
> >
> > --AZ
>
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