Thanks! On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:36 PM Lucas Werkmeister < [email protected]> wrote:
> Folks, I’m already in contact with John, there’s no need to contact him > again :) > > Cheers, Lucas > > Am Mo., 7. Mai 2018 um 19:32 Uhr schrieb Denny Vrandečić < > [email protected]>: > >> Well, then, we have tried several times to get into that diagram, and it >> never worked out. >> >> So, given the page you linke, it says: >> >> Contributing to the Diagram >> >> First, make sure that you publish data according to the Linked Data >> principles <http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html>. We >> interpret this as: >> >> - There must be *resolvable http:// (or https://) URIs*. >> - They must resolve, with or without content negotiation, to *RDF >> data* in one of the popular RDF formats (RDFa, RDF/XML, Turtle, >> N-Triples). >> - The dataset must contain *at least 1000 triples*. (Hence, your FOAF >> file most likely does not qualify.) >> - The dataset must be connected via *RDF links* to a dataset that is >> already in the diagram. This means, either your dataset must use URIs from >> the other dataset, or vice versa. We arbitrarily require at least 50 >> links. >> - Access of the *entire* dataset must be possible via *RDF crawling*, >> via an *RDF dump*, or via a *SPARQL endpoint*. >> >> The process for adding datasets is still under development, please >> contact John P. McCrae <[email protected]> to add a new dataset >> >> Wikidata fulfills all the conditions easily. So, here we go, I am adding >> John to this thread - although I know he already knows about this request - >> and I am asking officially to enter Wikidata into the LOD diagram. >> >> Let's keep it all open, and see where it goes from here. >> >> Cheers, >> Denny >> >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:15 AM Sebastian Hellmann < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Denny, Maarten, >>> >>> you should read your own emails. In fact it is quite easy to join the >>> LOD cloud diagram. >>> >>> The most important step is to follow the instructions on the page: >>> http://lod-cloud.net under how to contribute and then add the metadata. >>> >>> Some years ago I made a Wordpress with enabled Linked Data: >>> http://www.klappstuhlclub.de/wp/ Even this is included as I simply >>> added the metadata entry. >>> >>> Do you really think John McCrae added a line in the code that says "if >>> (dataset==wikidata) skip; " ? >>> >>> You just need to add it like everybody else in LOD, DBpedia also created >>> its entry and updates it now and then. The same accounts for >>> http://lov.okfn.org Somebody from Wikidata needs to upload the >>> Wikidata properties as OWL. If nobody does it, it will not be in there. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> On 04.05.2018 18:33, Maarten Dammers wrote: >>> >>> It almost feels like someone doesn’t want Wikidata in there? Maybe that >>> website is maintained by DBpedia fans? Just thinking out loud here because >>> DBpedia is very popular in the academic world and Wikidata a huge threat >>> for that popularity. >>> >>> Maarten >>> >>> Op 4 mei 2018 om 17:20 heeft Denny Vrandečić <[email protected]> het >>> volgende geschreven: >>> >>> I'm pretty sure that Wikidata is doing better than 90% of the current >>> bubbles in the diagram. >>> >>> If they wanted to have Wikidata in the diagram it would have been there >>> before it was too small to read it. :) >>> >>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 7:47 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the corrections. >>>> >>>> So https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q42 is *the* Wikidata IRI for >>>> Douglas >>>> Adams. Retrieving from this IRI results in a 303 See Other to >>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42, which (I guess) >>>> is the >>>> main IRI for representations of Douglas Adams and other pages with >>>> information about him. >>>> >>>> From https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42 content >>>> negotiation can be used to get the JSON representation (the default), >>>> other >>>> representations including Turtle, and human-readable information. (Well >>>> actually I'm not sure that this is really correct. It appears that >>>> instead >>>> of directly using content negotiation, another 303 See Other is used to >>>> provide an IRI for a document in the requested format.) >>>> >>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42.json and >>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42.ttl are the useful >>>> machine-readable documents containing the Wikidata information about >>>> Douglas >>>> Adams. Content negotiation is not possible on these pages. >>>> >>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 is the IRI that produces a >>>> human-readable >>>> version of the information about Douglas Adams. Content negotiation is >>>> not >>>> possible on this page, but it does have link rel="alternate" to the >>>> machine-readable pages. >>>> >>>> Strangely this page has a link rel="canonical" to itself. Shouldn't >>>> that >>>> link be to https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q42? There is a >>>> human-visible >>>> link to this IRI, but there doesn't appear to be any machine-readable >>>> link. >>>> >>>> RDF links to other IRIs for Douglas Adams are given in RDF pages by >>>> properties in the wdtn namespace. Many, but not all, identifiers are >>>> handled this way. (Strangely ISNI (P213) isn't even though it is >>>> linked on >>>> the human-readable page.) >>>> >>>> So it looks as if Wikidata can be considered as Linked Open Data but >>>> maybe >>>> some improvements can be made. >>>> >>>> >>>> peter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/01/2018 01:03 AM, Antoine Zimmermann wrote: >>>> > On 01/05/2018 03:25, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: >>>> >> As far as I can tell real IRIs for Wikidata are https URIs. The >>>> http IRIs >>>> >> redirect to https IRIs. >>>> > >>>> > That's right. >>>> > >>>> >> As far as I can tell no content negotiation is >>>> >> done. >>>> > >>>> > No, you're mistaken. Your tried the URL of a wikipage in your curl >>>> command. >>>> > Those are for human consumption, thus not available in turtle. >>>> > >>>> > The "real IRIs" of Wikidata entities are like this: >>>> > https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q{NUMBER} >>>> > >>>> > However, they 303 redirect to >>>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER} >>>> > >>>> > which is the identifier of a schema:Dataset. Then, if you HTTP GET >>>> these >>>> > URIs, you can content negotiate them to JSON >>>> > (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER}.json) or >>>> to >>>> > turtle ( >>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q{NUMBER}.ttl). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Suprisingly, there is no connection between the entity IRIs and the >>>> wikipage >>>> > URLs. If one was given the IRI of an entity from Wikidata, and had no >>>> > further information about how Wikidata works, they would not be able >>>> to >>>> > retrieve HTML content about the entity. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > BTW, I'm not sure the implementation of content negotiation in >>>> Wikidata is >>>> > correct because the server does not tell me the format of the >>>> resource to >>>> > which it redirects (as opposed to what DBpedia does, for instance). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --AZ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing >>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >>> -- >>> All the best, >>> Sebastian Hellmann >>> >>> Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data Technologies (KILT) >>> Competence Center >>> at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University >>> Executive Director of the DBpedia Association >>> Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://nlp2rdf.org, >>> http://linguistics.okfn.org, https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt >>> <http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt> >>> Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann >>> Research Group: http://aksw.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > > -- > Lucas Werkmeister > Software Developer (Intern) > > Wikimedia Deutschland e. 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