Ho Lucie,
I would really love to work with you on content that is of particular
relevance for African Wikipedias. At this time I have added many statements
for African politicians, I started with African awards and African
geography.. The structure from wards to country for Tanzania..
What I am really interested in at this time are politicians that held
multiple offices.
One reason why the geographical structures are relevant; it is customary to
identify place of birth and death precisely; without these structures it is
either fixed text or it is a higher level like a region for Africans,.
By working on the content in Wikidata and sharing Listeria lists, I do find
that people become interested, it would help when the representation issues
for people who held an office multiple time gets resolved. With individual
representation, things become even more relevant.
NB having texts is a definite boon.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2018 at 12:21, Lucie Kaffee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Olya and everyone,
>
> Very interesting project!
> I am working on underserved languages in Wikipedia as well, mainly as part
> of my research. In our most recent work we experimented with generating
> Wikipedia summaries from Wikidata facts in underserved languages, which
> worked quite well [1][2]. The idea was based on the ArticlePlaceholder [3]
> that display Wikidata triples on Wikipedia dynamically.
> Learning from existing Wikipedia articles in the language has the
> advantage that we can keep cultural and linguistic attributes as they are.
> Which is similar to a human-in-the-loop approach as you suggest.
> While no humans are needed for our summary generation, one of the main
> drawbacks is that currently it is just one single introductory sentence. We
> are planning on experimenting extending this with a project at the end of
> the year.
> I am always happy to discuss these topics more and would be interested if
> there is something in our approach that is helpful for you and vice versa!
>
> All the best,
> Lucie
>
>
> [1] preprint: https://2018.eswc-conferences.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/
> 02/ESWC2018_paper_131.pdf
> [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.07116.pdf
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticlePlaceholder
>
> On 18 June 2018 at 10:43, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> There is no explicit link between the data and the lexicographic data. As
>> a consequence it will not be easy to make use of the existing labels for
>> automated translation servies. This has been an explicit architectural
>> decision..
>>
>> For me it will be interesting to learn how these links will be realised
>> and how existing differences will be reconciled and how this will impact
>> services like translation services.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 18 June 2018 at 08:52, Info WorldUniversity <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Irene, Wikibabel, Gerd, and Wikidatans,
>>>
>>> How does Wikidata's new lexicographical project work with regard to
>>> Swahili (since it is a Wikipedia / Wikidata language) and Google Translate
>>> / GNMT re your "Our approach leverages Google Translate
>>> <https://cloud.google.com/translate/docs/> to make English Wikipedia
>>> articles accessible to underserved communities" (re:
>>> https://medium.com/@oirzak/wikibabel-equalizing-information-
>>> access-on-a-budget-4038f750e90e)?
>>>
>>> Will a Wikibabel team you help create add Swahili lexemes to the
>>> lexicographical project - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
>>> Wikidata:Lexicographical_data - and then Google GNMT - which is
>>> end-to-end translation software ... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/
>>> -jwgtcgkgG2o/WDSBrwu9jeI/AAAAAAAABbM/2Eobq-N9_nYeAdeH-sB_NZG
>>> bhyoSWgReACLcB/s1600/image01.gif (https://ai.googleblog.com/201
>>> 6/11/zero-shot-translation-with-googles.html) - use this new Swahili
>>> lexicographical data by processing this through its algorithms?
>>>
>>> (WUaS seeks to facilitate machine translation in all 7097 living
>>> languages, and by growing out of Google GNMT; WUaS donated itself for
>>> co-development to Wikidata in 2015).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> I am giving a lot of attention to content that deals with Africa. At
>>>> that I also target the Swahili wikipedia [1] (I have not filled in all the
>>>> red links yet). At this moment I am adding information in Wikidata about
>>>> Tanzanian wards based on sw.wikipedia categories and templates.
>>>>
>>>> Many of the African language Wikipedias are struggling. By making the
>>>> lists as complete as possible based on categories and lists, the
>>>> information becomes more useful and better, it can be and is used in the
>>>> same manner on multiple Wikipedias. At this moment zu yo en sw Wikipedia.
>>>> As the information is made available using Listeria lists, the information
>>>> gets updated as and when new information becomes available.
>>>>
>>>> Another notion of mine is that it will help with individual info boxes
>>>> eg for politicians, or indeed Tanzanian wards .. :)
>>>>
>>>> NB I am a big fan of providing information using machine translation.
>>>> However, PLEASE consider the lessons learned from the Cebuano Wikipedia and
>>>> make the texts available in a cached way; not in the final form as saved
>>>> text.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> GerardM
>>>>
>>>> PS when there is something where we can collaborate, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtumiaji:GerardM
>>>>
>>>> On 18 June 2018 at 01:12, Olya Irzak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Wikidata community,
>>>>>
>>>>> We're working on a project called Wikibabel to machine-translate parts
>>>>> of Wikipedia into underserved languages, starting with Swahili.
>>>>>
>>>>> In hopes that some of our ideas can be helpful to machine translation
>>>>> projects, we wrote a blogpost about how we prioritized which pages to
>>>>> translate, and what categories need a human in the loop:
>>>>> https://medium.com/@oirzak/wikibabel-equalizing-information-
>>>>> access-on-a-budget-4038f750e90e
>>>>>
>>>>> Rumor has it that the Wikidata community has thought deeply about
>>>>> information access. We'd love your feedback on our work. Please let us
>>>>> know
>>>>> about past / ongoing machine translation related projects so we can learn
>>>>> from & collaborate with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Olya & the Wikibabel crew
>>>>>
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