Hoi,
On average there is little or no support for subjects that have to do with
Africa. When I check the articles for politicians for instance, I find that
even current presidents let alone ministers are missing in African
Wikipedias. So it is wonderful that there have been projects that deal with
gaps but what if there is hardly anything?
What this approach brings us is at least information. Basic information in
lists, info boxes maybe an additional line of text.
What we apparently have not done is learn from the Cebuano experience. The
biggest issue was not the quality of the new information, it is the
integration with Wikidata. Everything is new and it did not link with what
we already knew. What we bring in this way is integrated information and as
long as data is not saved as an article, the quality provided improves as
Wikidata gains better intel.
If anything, the experience of the Welsh Wikipedia brings us more than
gapfinder or tiger editathon because of this is more in line with this
approach.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2018 at 13:19, Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
>
> 2018-06-18 2:12 GMT+03:00 Olya Irzak <[email protected]>:
>
>> Dear Wikidata community,
>>
>> We're working on a project called Wikibabel to machine-translate parts of
>> Wikipedia into underserved languages, starting with Swahili.
>>
>> In hopes that some of our ideas can be helpful to machine translation
>> projects, we wrote a blogpost about how we prioritized which pages to
>> translate, and what categories need a human in the loop:
>> https://medium.com/@oirzak/wikibabel-equalizing-information-
>> access-on-a-budget-4038f750e90e
>>
>> Rumor has it that the Wikidata community has thought deeply about
>> information access. We'd love your feedback on our work. Please let us know
>> about past / ongoing machine translation related projects so we can learn
>> from & collaborate with them.
>>
>
> I'm not sure how has the Wikidata community think deeply about it.
>
> One project that does something related to what you're doing is GapFinder
> ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GapFinder ). As far as I know, the
> GapFinder frontend is not developed actively, but the recommendation API
> behind it is being actively maintained and developed, but you should ask
> the Research team for more info (see https://www.mediawiki.org/
> wiki/Wikimedia_Research ).
>
> Project Tiger is also doing something similar: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/Project_Tiger_Editathon_2018
>
> As a general comment, displaying machine-translated text in a way that
> appears that is had been written by humans is misleading and damaging. I
> don't know any Swahili, but in languages that I can read (Russian, Hebrew,
> Catalan, Spanish, French, German), the quality of machine translation is at
> its best good as an aid during writing a translation by a human, and it's
> never good for actually reading. I also don't understand why do you invest
> credits into pre-machine-translating articles that people can
> machine-translate for free, but maybe I'm missing something about how your
> project works.
>
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