Dear Wikidata list,

one of our big contributors, Bruno Belhoste in Paris, just gave me a weird 
question which I feel I cannot answer that fast.

We, FactGrid, are a Wikidata child and so it came that we adopted structures 
like the father/mother differentiation. Bruno's question is now whether it 
would not have been wise to just create just a "parent" option instead of the 
gender fork that splits the lineages. Let me insert his mail:


> Dear Olaf,
> 
> I have a question of data modeling in FactGrid concerning family ties. 
> We have one property for children (P150) and also one for siblings 
> (P203), but two different properties for parents: father (P141) and 
> mother (P142). The problem is: how can you get all the members of the 
> family of somebody? One have (1) to explore both the matrilinear trees 
> and the patrilinear trees at each generation to get all the ancestors 
> and (2) to get all the descents of these ancestors. It is very complex. 
> It would be much simpler to have only one property including the father 
> and the mother.
> 
> In case we choose this solution, it would be easy to transform all the 
> triples with P141 or P142 into triples with the new property. What do 
> you think about that? Have you another solution for querying family links?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Bruno

I wonder what people with more data knowledge think about the proposal (which 
would affect just our site, not Wikidata...) (so: no worries, we can do 
experimental things without affecting our parent - I hesitate to speak of a 
father or mother - Wikidata).

Best,
Olaf




Dr. Olaf Simons
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Schloss Friedenstein, Pagenhaus
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