On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 11:11, Peter Patel-Schneider <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 12:17 +0300, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > The Wikidata community also can't benefit from those publications
> > unless
> > they're made (libre) open access, so I think it would be fair to
> > require
> > all the papers will be OA (preferably) or explaining how the authors
> > can
> > archive them (for free) under a free license (libre green OA) à la:
> > https://www.coalition-s.org/rights-retention-strategy/
> > https://cyber.harvard.edu/hoap/How_to_make_your_own_work_open_access
>
> I think this is too strong.  There is no reason that the Wikidata
> community cannot benefit from publications in venues that are not open
> access.  Of course open access makes publications more accessible and
> more in line with Wikidata goals but to my mind a publication that is
> not open access can provide a benefit to the Wikidata community.


While "can't benefit from those publications" over-states the case,
choosing to allow (contextualized, appropriate, etc.) CfPs associated with
events/publications that are in line with Wikidata goals does make sense.
Giving a positive nudge and benefit to likeminded efforts seems fine.

The challenge is that this isn't a strict boolean (eg exclusive elite
expensive events with open proceedings, or more inclusive/accessible
participation but old-style publication…), and policing those grey areas is
work for someone.

I guess refining policing wiki rules is what some folks do for fun around
here, so maybe I should switch to listening mode at this point…

Dan



>
> >  From a search <https://link.lens.org/AFeru5oPGdg> it's easy to find
> > good and bad examples. Bad is
> > e.g.
> https://www.elsevier.com/journals/journal-of-web-semantics/1570-8268/guide-for-authors
> > >
> > (claims embargos and all sorts of restrictions), rather good is e.g.
> > <https://aclanthology.org/venues/emnlp/>
> > (<https://aclanthology.org/faq/> states CC-BY).
>
> I think that you should have searched further and found out more about
> the open access policy of the Journal of Web Semantics.  In
>
> https://www.elsevier.com/journals/journal-of-web-semantics/1570-8268/open-access-options
> there is "In accordance with funding body requirements, Elsevier does
> offer alternative open access publishing options. Visit our open access
> page for full information."
>
> > Federico
>
> peter
>
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