👍I agree with Beat’s sentiments. In the grand scheme of things, the noise
factor is fairly low.

👊
—David

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:34 PM Estermann Beat <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Jan,
>
>
>
> Personally, I haven’t been particularly annoyed by the amount of “spam” to
> this list.
>
> To me, a “reactive” moderation approach is absolutely fine to me. List
> admins could just let senders know after the fact that off-topic messages
> are not welcome.
>
> Senders known to post mainly unrelated stuff can be put on individual
> moderation.
>
> So, the current practice as you describe it, looks perfect to me.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Beat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jan Ainali <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sonntag, 19. September 2021 18:21
> *To:* Discussion list for the Wikidata project <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Wikidata] Re: Change list policy for call for papers postings?
>
>
>
> Beat, do you suggest that all messages should be moderated?
>
>
>
> Because right now it is not, and I was hoping that we could keep like that
> and just ask people to not spam the list (and if they do, put them
> individually on moderation).
>
>
>
> Jan Ainali
>
>
>
>
>
> Den sön 19 sep. 2021 kl 18:14 skrev Estermann Beat <[email protected]
> >:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> If there is an obvious thematic link to the topic of the list, then let
> the message through; if not, discard it; if in doubt, ask the sender to
> clarify the link.
>
>
>
> This should go for any message sent to the list; there is no need for any
> specific rules regarding CfPs, event announcements, etc.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Beat
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sonntag, 19. September 2021 14:09
> *To:* Discussion list for the Wikidata project <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Wikidata] Re: Change list policy for call for papers postings?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Maybe not a full ban (or maybe, I wouldn't be against it) but at least
> some clear rules to avoid these spam.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> An example of mail that should absolutely be avoided (and not just on this
> mailing list) is when a similar mail is sent several times in a short
> timespan. We had almost the same mail sent in 2 days this week ! (not to
> blame this person in particular, this is not the first time it happens and
> it's bad communication).
>
> Also, senders should strive to make an effort to tell us how the call is
> related and/or could benefit to/from Wikidata (very often it's unclear, we
> shouldn't have to guess why we are receiving these calls).
>
>
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
>
>
> Le dim. 19 sept. 2021 Ă  12:57, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <
> [email protected]> a Ă©crit :
>
> Back on point, please.
>
> In regards to calls for papers, do we want to ban them altogether, to
> set standards to allow some of them, or leave them be as they are now?
>
> L.
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