Hi Leigh -- 

The play on words doesn't necessarily exclude open data flows <smile> ..
but I agree with Randy, the NextWave concept is more powerful and
appropriate? 

Getting back to my "learning to snowboard after 40 years old" experience
-- (Yes it is true that you can snowboard well into your 60's but it's
best learned before you turn 17!). I persevered. These days I can get
myself down the mountain in one piece and rather elegantly with my
turning skills -- but now I want to learn how to board "switch" or
"fakie" -- in other words the other way around. I really like this
boarding stuff and want to experience and achieve more. Similarly - I'm
sure there are WikiEducators that would like to get more out of their
investment. This may include support on using some of our new flashy
tools and helping WikiEducators connect with other Wikieducator's in a
non-zero sum experience. Its about our space to innovate and push the
envelop within the value structure of our community.  

I look at the amazing work that educators have done at Otago, University
of Winneba, India etc -- and I'm thinking about how can WE can create
and provide opportunities for the Nextwave of the experience ---
Tutorials are one part of the equation, but really just a means to
achieving an that "Eureka"  experience of real wiki collaboration. 

Facilitating Online Communities is a model course in many respects ---
How do you see this slotting into the NextWave concept?

R you back in NZ yet or still rocking the Tasmanians?

Cheers
Wayne 




On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:50 +1000, Leigh Blackall wrote:

> When I saw 2nd Life, I didn't recognise a play on words and thought
> Wayne was meaning Second Life or online simulators like it... ie The
> Croquet Project, which the University of British Columbia (among
> others) is involved with. When Wayne was talking about extending
> Wikied, I thought it was in the domain of open data flows like
> embedding into and from 3rd party services generally.
> 
> But, now I see it is in extending the tutorials. Otago has a course
> about to run called Facilitating Online Communities {{WIP}}. In that
> course is a focus for one of the weeks on Wiki communities, and then
> we start organising an online conference (probably using a wiki to
> document). It would be great to look at team teaching experiments in
> this open course...?
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>         Hey Randy,
>         
>         NextWave is an excellent improvement on the first draft.
>         Thanks. Gee -- you see how collaboration improves quality over
>         time.
>         
>         Lets start planning the NextWave and riding it! 
>         
>         We can link this to more advanced levels on the road to
>         becoming a Wikimaster!
>         
>         Cheers
>         Wayne
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 14:37 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote:
>         
>         > Hi Wayne,
>         > 
>         > Instead of 2nd Life (yes, I do recognize the play on words),
>         > my preference is to go with 2nd Wave (of tutorials) or even
>         > better - NextWave - it just gives a better image, picture,
>         > etc. and folks can catch the wave...well, you get it...
>         > 
>         > My 3 cents,
>         > 
>         > - Randy
>         > 
>         > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
>         > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         
>         >         Hi Everyone,
>         >         
>         >         David Leeming who facilitated the first official,
>         >         face-to-face
>         >         Learning4Content workshop in the Solomon Islands has
>         >         visited COL on
>         >         route after an OLPC meeting in Boston.
>         >         
>         >         I was showing David a bunch of stuff in our Wiki --
>         >         and taking the
>         >         advantage of a face-to-face discussion it became
>         >         clear that we need to
>         >         thing about how to provide the next level of support
>         >         for the early
>         >         adopters in getting the most out of WikiEducator.
>         >         
>         >         For example, we were chatting today about
>         >         WikiEducator,
>         >         Learning4Content etc. While sitting in my office I
>         >         was showing David a
>         >         couple of our new COOL features in the wiki thanks
>         >         to WikiEducators
>         >         like Jim Tittsler, Brent Simpson, Rob Kruhlak. Randy
>         >         (aka WikiEducator
>         >         Community Builder) was with us highlighting
>         >         community achievements and
>         >         how WE can  promote effective community development
>         >         for the future.
>         >         
>         >         While chatting with David, we were pointing out
>         >         examples of phenomenal
>         >         development in our community, including for example
>         >         (in no order of
>         >         preference):
>         >         
>         >         * The prolific content development at Otago
>         >         Polytechnic;
>         >         http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic
>         >         * The successes of the FLOSS4Edu intiative;
>         >         http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu
>         >         * The OER initiative at the University of Education
>         >         Winneba in Ghana
>         >         http://wikieducator.org/UEW
>         >         * India's leadership in building a national WE
>         >         community:
>         >         http://wikieducator.org/India
>         >         * The University of Mauritius involving Masters
>         >         students in a WE
>         >         project who are developing a wiki reflection on
>         >         their experiences of
>         >         an online L4C workshop:
>         >         http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikiflexion
>         >         * The work in Sri Lanka developing OERs for the
>         >         farming and
>         >         agriculture community:
>         >         http://wikieducator.org/Sri_Lanka/L3_Farmers and
>         >         
> http://wikieducator.org/Sri_Lanka/L3_Farmers/University_of_Colombo
>         >         * The budding community media node:
>         >         http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media
>         >         
>         >         To list only a few initiatives -- there are many,
>         >         many more!
>         >         The challenge -- How do WE continue to support these
>         >         pioneers and
>         >         innovators?
>         >         
>         >         Has our community reached the maturity where we need
>         >         to thing about
>         >         helping the early adopters move forward into a "2nd
>         >         life"  -- perhaps
>         >         an L4C equivalent for our next generation of
>         >         Wikieducators to be
>         >         introduced to new tools and thoughts about getting
>         >         the most out of WE.
>         >         
>         >         What do you think?
>         >         Should we develop the next tier of tutorials?
>         >         Start a "2nd life" online workshop series using the
>         >         L4C model?
>         >         
>         >         Please let us know what your think --- our community
>         >         is growing faster
>         >         than our ability to keep up ...
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         Cheers
>         >         Wayne.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > -- 
>         > ________________
>         > Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable
>         > Ecosystems to Improve Performance- for People, Teams,
>         > Communities, and Organizations
>         > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher
>         > 
>         > + 1 604.684.2275
>         > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         > www.hirerandy.com
>         > 
>         > Skype: wikirandy
>         > 
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
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