Next you'll be suggesting twitter so we can keep up with his
movements... geographic that is <SMILE>

On Oct 2, 2:23 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wayne, you need a blog..
>
> All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group and
> different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with
> everything you are doing and thinking about
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote:
>
> > Wayne wrote:
>
> > << WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: >>
>
> > Oooooh, okay, fair enough.
>
> >  I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to provide a
> > synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as the basis to
> > ask the community to help us identify the strategic and operational
> > priorities of Phase 3 in our development.
>
> >  << TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open
> > Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009.  COL has agreed to fund the
> > technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, that
> > is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for
> > WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is
> > established within a new legal framework that COL considers
> > appropriate for such support.  Our discussions have been around
> > setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. >>
>
> > I agree that this is critically important.  In order to set up a non-
> > profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes?  And these would
> > presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of Directors
> > or Trustees or what have you?  I ask because if that's the case then
> > this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, and if
> > that's so we must be the ones to write it.
>
> >  Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not necessarily.
>
> > My personal view is that we should do everything we can to respect and
> > support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our history and
> > what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements.  It is conceivable
> > to have an independent non profit that is responsible for maintaining the
> > technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator community in
> > accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator Community Council
> > without interfering with the governance of the community.  I'm not a lawyer
> > and we'll need to get legal advice on this question.  So let's wait till we
> > have feedback from the experts.
>
> > << Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - employee
> > relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded to
> > employment agreements. >>
>
> > I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with Otago
> > would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing
> > relevant information with the WE community.
>
> >  Nope -- I don't see it that way at all.  We all have multiple roles and
> > identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the WE family.
> > For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as a member
> > of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which gives me the
> > time to work for the WikiEducator project as an organisational allocation of
> > staff time. Increasingly, I hope to see more institutions officially
> > donating FTE (Full time equivalent) staff time to the project. I've been
> > thinking about launching an FTE for WikiEducator initiative where
> > institutions commit real staff time to the project.
>
> > << The moment I have definitive detail on the relationship between the
> > operations of the International Centre for Open Education and the
> > WikiEducator project -- I will be the first to let our community know.
>
> > Fair enough.
>
> > << Suffice it to say, the establishment of an independent legal entity
> > for administering the funding for the WE project is a critical path
> > decision for moving forward.  Currently -- WE has no legal status. WE
> > is a community of association whereby individual members are
> > personally responsible (and liable) for their activities in the
> > community. >>
>
> > Very good, on this I think everyone agrees.  Can we assume the non-
> > profit group would be chartered in NZ?  (Fine with me if it is, so
> > long as NZ recognises public domain dedications.)
>
> >  Yes -- the non-profit would be chartered in NZ. To the best of my 
> > knowledge, NZ recognises public domain dedications.
>
> > The final form of the non-profit is not my decision, nor should it be. This
> > has to do with taxation status of different kinds of entities, for example
> > an Educational Charitable Trust versus a non-profit company with charitable
> > purposes.  In the case of NZ Educational Trust, to retain "tax free" status
> > has implications regarding disbursements -- this has nothing to do with the
> > form of the entity but local taxation law. As an international project we
> > must ensure that WE can continue its work at an international level.  This
> > international stuff gets pretty complicated -- our server sits in Germany
> > and we will more than likely have our Phase 2 hosting located in Canada.
> > Each country has its laws around these things as well. I'm not a lawyer and
> > we will rely on the advice of legal professionals working in the field.
> > There is also the question of legal liability of the organisation that funds
> > operations etc. So lots of detail that needs to be worked out.
>
> >  << I have always acted in the best interests of the WIkiEducator
> > project. I hold the highest number of edits in the community and the
> > accolade of being the first member of WikiEducator :-).  Since the
> > inception of the project I have always put community first and will
> > continue to do so. >>
>
> > I know.  I really hope you don't think that I'm asking you these
> > questions because of any doubt of that, as for the record I have none
> > at all.  And hopefully everyone understands that you can't know
> > everything yet.  I'm only bugging you this way because I want to
> > ensure that the community is as involved as possible in what happens
> > to us, and you can't reasonably facilitate that if we don't do our
> > part by asking what we need to know.
>
> >  I respect and admire your approach and ongoing commitment to our project
> > since the early days :-) --- keep bugging!
>
> > Cheers
> > Wayne
>
> >  -=Steve=-
>
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