Just to clarify: I don't think socialization is necessarily coercive. I think mandatory curriculum is, though. Math is especially notorious for being a highly coercive subject, partially because it is often used for gatekeeping rather than intrinsic purposes. By"kiddie torture" I meant children literally being forced to learn math they hate, which can lead to consequences from unhappy days and tears to long-term psychological traumas and emotional disorders.
Cheers, MariaD On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Socialisation is coercive, therefore violent... > > Is this what you intended Gunther? > > And what part does Wikieducator, OER, COL, UN and UNESCO play in other forms > of socialisation? > > Cultural colonisation? > Legal imperialism? > Economic globalisation? > Political homogenisation? > > Or did you simply intend to reference crude forms of violence like war and > physical assault Gunther? > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Alex P. Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Maria, >> >> >> >> I more or less share your definition (socialization is coercive), >> particularly glaring in Maths. Only realized they could be fun when I >> decided to unlearn and design my own learning environment to pass first year >> Statistics. Since then I taught Statistics and quan methods to fellow >> students, and they all passed by tearing down the unintelligible wall rather >> than any bright skills of mine. Years have passed by and still Stats are the >> "daunting ogre" and it's sad to see how many Sociology undergrads are >> attracted to qual in rejection to Stats & SPSS+, thus re-enacting the false >> myth of quan- qual confrontation. Fairly common-sense, but shouldn't >> research goals, variables of study & budget define most appropriate methods >> rather than any given assumption or preference? >> >> >> >> Keep up with such fascinating work! >> >> >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> De: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> En nombre de Maria Droujkova >> Enviado el: martes, 09 de diciembre de 2008 2:02 >> Para: [email protected] >> Asunto: [WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator goes non-violent? >> >> >> >> If we include "coercive" in the definition of "violent" then forcing kids >> learn is an example of violent content. As a math educator, I see a lot of >> kiddie torture related to my subject. >> >> This is also a good example of how varied our definitions of "violent >> behavior" can be. I meet very few people who share that definition. >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> Can you describe what violent behavior and content might look like in >> Wikieducator? >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
