Hi there, Regarding your comment
"Just going through the strategy for wikieducator, Wayne's trying to find ways to make things sustainable, and encourage the value adders. So let's not just limit things to just the web stuff. The most important thing, and the thing which is going to make the profit, or provide the cost savings for institutions, is getting the asynchronous networks to align with the real time ones" I think there are multiple ways that create sustainability. There's the way that you mention...and others that will emerge, over time. In my Masters project work, I've done some number crunching for using WikiEducator as a course development platform for educational institutions using it. This was a first draft ~ there will be others, and different scenarios, but basically, an institution with 700 faculty and 1000 courses, which devotes at least 10% of its course development / revision activities to WikiEd, can look forward to achieving $200K-$400K in annual savings. (I say this range, because my first pass at the numbers was $400K, but then I did a second pass at it, and the numbers dropped based on my assumptions....but still, these are significant numbers) Anyways, have a look: http://www.wikieducator.org/OMD/MPII/Assignments#Project_Numbers Cheers, - Randy On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:12 AM, simonfj <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks nadia, > > That gave me the drection I needed. > The site was looking for was > http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Citizendium > and Larry Sanger was the name of the co-founder of wikipedia I was > looking for. > > It's the comparison between an open approach = wikipedia, and the more > structured approach = citizendium, I'm making. Wikieducator is > interesting in that it's now trying to come up with a way to be > sustainable (profitable). I'm also having a nice discussion with > Leigh,who, if you read his blog, seems to have many of the same ideas > I have. > > The one thing which most people in the .edu space seem to leave out of > this equation is the real time networking. Skype, as the main player > in getting the telcos to reduce their costs, has just done away with > their Skypecast service. (audio/video conferencing), so we know that > we are getting close to finding a directory which brings the web stuff > (in the .edu space it appears to lean to using a wiki, moodle or/and > blog) and the real time networks together. i.e. if you read something > you're trying to understand, you normally want to talk to the person > or group who provided it. The only institution I've seen attempting to > do this is the open uni in the UK, who developed > http://technologies.kmi.open.ac.uk/msg/ > > Just going through the strategy for wikieducator, Wayne's trying to > find ways to make things sustainable, and encourage the value adders. > So let's not just limit things to just the web stuff. The most > important thing, and the thing which is going to make the profit, or > provide the cost savings for institutions, is getting the asynchronous > networks to align with the real time ones. > > Thanks again, simon > > On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Nadia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Simon, > > You can check herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales > > where it explains about Nupedia and Wikipedia > > wikieducatorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiEducator > > and you can ask Wayne. > > Good luck with your comparison and let us know where we WE can read it > > Nadia > > > > On Feb 13, 7:15 am, simonfj <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Guys, can you help me here, > > > > > I'm looking at this conferencehttp:// > wiki.ocwconsortium.org/index.php?title=A_Call_for_Papers:_OCWC... > > > > > and want to do a comparison between wikipedia, wikieducator, and the > > > wiki site started by the original editor of wikipedia a long time ago. > > > Just can't remember his name or the site address. Anyone know? > > > > > Also looking for any examples of some real time networks that are used > > > to support the Web stuff, and are integrated into the domain. By this > > > i mean you can be reading a thread on a forum, moodle, etc, which will > > > have a presence light for each attendee. Then you click on an > > > attendee's green light (it works like a traffic light) and can chat, > > > talk or conference. This will give you an idea of what I mean (and > > > where the UK open uni is up to with it) . > http://labspace.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=792 > > > > > Any feedback would be appreciated. simon > > > -- ________________ Randy Fisher * Change/Transition & Program/Project Support * Stakeholder Engagement, Collaboration & Performance * Community Building & Organization Development * eLearning & eCoaching * Open Source & Open Education + 1 604.684.2275 [email protected] http://www.wikieducator.org - Member, WikiEducator Community Council http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher * Can You Do the Wiki-Wiki? http://www.wikieducator.org/Wiki_Wiki Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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