On Mar 23, 12:18 pm, "Wayne Mackintosh" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Posting from Samoa on a flaky internet connection @ the hotel. > > Again -- huge apology for the delay in getting back to you on the NREN and > other great ideas. I've just had too much on my plate with my move back to > NZ, speaking committments, getting the OER Foundation established etc. Samoa > will be by last international mission for COL and after 1 May 2009, I'll be > working full time on WikiEducator and OER Foundation projects :-).
Talofa lava. That's OK. Just send me an airline ticket. We can talk this over on the verandah at Aggie Grey's. (I know some great diving sites not too far away) > > You're absolutely right: > > 1) We need to promote and support ways in which open education can > collaborate with the NRENs --- From the NZ perspective, I'm already thinking > about how we might facilitate a national WE hub on KAREN (the NZ NREN > initiative) -- lots of issues to think about. How do we sync national WE hubs > with the international site, who pays, etc? So any thoughts and ideas you > have on moving this forward are most welcome :-) Well, the discussions in the geek world are all about the difference between (global) grids and clouds. So you don't think in terms of hubs and one international site, although one hub might act as a 'natural' aggregation point (node) for others. E.g Dutch docs in a nederland's server. It's just a web. Brion and Eric would be able to explain better than me. One natural WE partner for OER's cloud is growing legs (again) over at UK's OU. http://olnet.org/ I'd be trying to piggyback on the top of what they are putting together (so far as initial funding is concerned). It's the difference between the two cultures which we all need to synthesise. i.e. National institution vs Global ("concept centric"= WE terminology) groups. (the terminology is "subject specific" for librarians) . OU also have the benefit of having their own youtube channel, and are thinking about a "Researchchannel" (although I doubt if they are looking at coordinating with other natural hubs like http://www.scivee.tv/channels (NB I'm pointing at scivee's channels page, which highlights the challenge. i.e We want to build end-to-end grid channels (networked apps and content) for global subject specific groups), but we always tend to bury them in an institution's National domain; NB "end-to end" means what this potential funder says in the sixth para. http://www.innovateuk.org/ourstrategy/technology-areas/softwareapplicationssystemsandservices.ashx > 2) Real time comms will move the OER agenda forward by an order of magnitude > -- no doubt about this. How do we make this happen? I'd welcome funding > proposal development in moving this agenda forward. I'm no sure we need to get funding for this straight up. All the tools are already there. But we need to make the point to the geeks that their (NREN) networks need some good content producers, who use the stuff REGULARLY, if the new media industries are to grow legs. Their role is to systemise the network(s) so content producers don't have to annoy them with samo, samo demands. You'll find groups like this inside every NREN. http://www.aarnet.edu.au/upcoming-events/ozeconferences.aspx Here's a map if anyone wants to track down their local nodes. http://www.accessgrid.org/map (there are others) You'll also find projcts like this waiting for a reason to live. http://www.opencastproject.org/project/requirements > > As an open education advocate --- I have no issue where OER content is > hosted. We need to improve interoperability between OER projects to > facilitate remixing on a planetary scale. We've started some technical > discussions with Connexions to figure out interoperability between Connexions > and Mediawiki installations. Jim Tittsler has started playing with a script > to that > convertedhttp://cnx.org/content/m13764/latest/intohttp://wikieducator.org/User:JimTittsler/Sandbox/Cnxon > WikiEducator. As Jim say's: "It's fragile. It doesn't do tables, italics, > bold, or math markup. Or probably lots of other things. But it is a start." > I'm pursuing funding options to get this code developed. You'll be pleased to > know that WE develop all funding proposals as free content openly and > transparently on the wiki. I'm going to be working on a funding proposal to > get some of this functionality funded in the first 2 weeks in April -- watch > this space :-). Goodoh! > > As you know -- we have a strong history of collaboration with Mediawiki > developers. Erik is a member of our Community Council and we benefit > tremendously from the experiences of WMF in hosting large wiki projects. > We're committed to open source software and we will continue to collaborate > with the FLOSS community in achieving the vision of open education. > > I'm very excited about our future collaboration with Athabasca University for > our Phase 2 hosting --- Apart from being Canada's premier online university > -- AU have demonstrated a strong commitment to open education on multiple > fronts -- they share our vision and are natural partners for the evolution of > our project. That said -- I would love to have better engagement and > interaction with the NRENs --- I'm pretty sure that we'll get this right over > time. > > Simon -- when I get back to NZ -- lets arrange a time to skype. Lets see how > we can make the future happen! You'll understand why I don't like Skype. It stops the development of open presence/Voip networks. You should know that the OU's Openlearn was going down this track when the plug got pulled. Again, the usual problem. They we're thinking "National institution" when what is needed is a RTC network for "global groups". But the basic framework is in their geekish heads and this seed remains. http://ouseful.open.ac.uk/blogarchive/012211.html The way is works? (and I've just read Phil's Non Formal Education discussion thread). You register on the presence network. A green light displays who's online when reading a thread like this. You click on their button and chat, or talk, or conference (and maybe, with some work, share apps, record and stream), without "Slowing the Performance". I have to pull my finger out and get a video together for this conference (seeing I can't make it). http://wiki.ocwconsortium.org/index.php?title=A_Call_for_Papers:_OCWC_Global_2009_-_Content%2C_Infrastructure%2C_and_Creativity It's been a while since teaching how to do it decades ago at my alma mater. http://sae.edu/en-gb So let's just keep using this thread as a way to commmunicate. Writing is really helping me get my thoughts together. Ia manuia le aso and many thanks > > Cheers > Wayne > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
