Phil,
Many of us get ideas as we talk. If you are one of those people, maybe we
can get a voice conference going.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
http://www.nelliemuller.com
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Phil Bartle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Peter.
> I must admit I use  the word "rant" with my tongue firmly in my cheek. What
> I have on my user page is a series of web-logs about issues that mean a lot
> to me, and in many ways are stimulated by the discussions on this listserv.
>  Unfortunately, several of the topics on the listserv pass over my head, and
> I read them and hope some day I might understand them. Meanwhile i ave this
> urge (Like the artist in Tahiti) to write from time to time of things I do
> understand.
> I do not work well with deadlines, so I do not declare that i will put them
> up there on a specific timeline.
> I see many parallels between what I have been doing with my community
> empowerment web site, and WikiEd, and this is a good forum for me to explore
> those parallels.
> I like your phrase "getting out of the way" and see that as essential to
> the kind of eduction we are promoting on WikiEd.
>
> Nellie,I hope I can, and it takes a long time for ideas to brew in my head
> before I start writing.
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
> Date: Thurs, Aug 20 2009 8:49 am
> From: Peter
> Great rant Phil... wouldn't call it a rant for you say many valid
> things. I particularly like your section on getting out of the way or
> as you wrote it community empowerment "vs" charity. I believe the
> hardest part of what we do within OER is in creating and holding the
> space that others can fill, help themselves, one could say. we need to
> be coaches on the sidelines, maintaining the field and helping people
> to become stronger...
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> PeterIf the coach does the pushups,
> The athlete will not get stronger
> Community Empowerment:
> www.scn.org/cmp/
> WikiEducator
> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Philbartle
> Join our discusssion forum
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Community_Strengthening
>
> >
>

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