Dear Valerie Can we think of this question from another perspective , what is the diffeernce between wikipedia and wikieducator ?
of course we can see that both of them need to think of quality issue , however I think a big difference is if we just put content into the Wikieducator , can we call it educational ? I personally like teacher when they utlise something so called " Non-educational " and combine it with their classes or put it into curriulum . to give you a good example in China , www.haokanbu.com is not a educational website ( it is for sharing photos and stories it is like Flickr but absolutely not ) but , many teacher began to use it, so it became " educational" tool for many teachers ,however , I found that most of teacher are from Instrucational technology field , instead of from other subjects , is this also happening in your countries ?? I really like to hear what other people feel abt this ? Leo 2010/1/21 Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 20:50, valerie <[email protected]> wrote: > > As an assignment in a community college course, my students are asked > > to find a learning resource in WikiEducator. Finding good learning > > objects in WE can be difficult, so I have included this assignment to > > have students find what they thought was complete and interesting. > > Although there is usually some frustration, they find some amazing WE > > pages. I'm accumulating a list of pages they discover. > > > > However, sometimes I get more information and feedback than I > > bargained for... I though this was an interesting comment from one of > > my students. > > "Also, the color scheme and design of the website is exactly the same > > as Wikipedia.org. Wikipedia is known for false information, and cannot > > be used for research papers. I feel that this site is similar to > > Wikipedia; therefore, this site's information cannot be trusted." > > A very common and elementary fallacy. > > Assuming > A and B have property X. > A has property Y. > > we are given the incorrect conclusion > > Therefore B has property Y. > > Easily shown to be nonsense using a Venn diagram, which unfortunately > I cannot include in a text message. X and Y should be overlapping > regions, with neither included in the other. Then A is in X and Y, > while B is in X but not in Y. > > > Sigh... Yes, some of our faculty are convinced that Wikipedia and by > > association, all wikis, especially those that look like Wikipedia > > because they use Mediawiki are evil and populated by gangs of internet > > hooligans intent on provide false information to unsuspecting web > > users. They explicitly forbid the use of Wikipedia. > > > > Has anyone else heard of similar credibility issues for WikiEducator > > content? > > It is true that Wikipedia should never be cited as a primary source > for research. The same is generally true of other Wikis. The correct > attitude is not to ban use of Wikis, but to require that students find > the original sources for the information in the Wiki, and to study and > cite those sources. You should not take the word of any participant > here for fact, but should yourself look at the research papers, > software, learning materials, and methods recommended and evaluate > them accordingly. Wikis are neither more nor less reliable than other > published encyclopedias, newspapers, TV, or other secondary and > tertiary sources. > > Of course, many primary sources, such as research articles using > improper methodolgy and drawing unwarranted conclusions, are also > utterly unreliable. There is no magic in correct scientific method, > only careful work. > > > Is this something that is limiting adoption of WE learning > > objects? > > No. > > > ..Valerie > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > -- Leo Wong -------------------------------------- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids
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