Hi Alan,

Thanks for the note I also want to thank all the contributors to the thread.
WE really appreciate your constructive and thoughtful inputs.

I propose that we implement a trail period where users can "opt in" to add
the Google custom search bar to their preferred skin.  In effect anybody can
do this right now, but non-technical users may have difficulty doing this.
*
*The Mediawiki software enables users to add their own custom JavaScript
associated with the skin they have specified in their user preferences, and
in this way it possible to add a Google Custom Search box to your page.

In non-technical terms this means that individual users can exercise free
choice regarding the search engine they want to use, without compromising
our core values. The OER Foundation will investigate a user friendly way for
non-technical users to implement the trial. We include instructions below
for those who want to try this out in the mean time.

During the next WikiEducator Community Council meeting, we will discuss the
guidelines for thinking about ancillary (non-core) web-services. You will
see that these items are included in the draft agenda:

http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_Council/Meetings/Third

Remember that our Council meetings are conducted openly in the wiki -- so if
you have any strong opinions one way or another, you are most welcome to add
these to the community council discussions.

Cheers
Wayne

Instructions to add a Google custom search box to your default skin (assumes
you use Monobook):


   - Login to WikiEducator and go to "My preferences"
   - Click on the Skin tab
   - Monobook should be checked -- click on the "Custom JS" link (should be
   red if you have not customised your Javascript before.
   - Add the following text exactly as it appears below:

addOnloadHook(function()
{importScript('User:JimTittsler/googlesearch.js');});


   - Save your page.
   - You should now have the Google Custom Search Box should now appear
   below the standard Mediawiki search box. You now have the freedom to choose
   which search box you want to use.

Cheers
Wayne


On 9 March 2010 16:06, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, I'm with Randy on this question. I would have to say that most
> academic staff at my institution would be using Google.
> Cheers,
> Alan.
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2:16 am, Randy Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How about a phased approach.
> >
> > Google for now + explore OS alternatives,
> >
> > When OS functionality is where the commuity wants it, then migrate to OS
> .
> >
> > - Randy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:08 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  I am still really on the fence.  My original Google vote was for
> reasons
> > > much like Ian's we have thousands of users around the world who need
> access
> > > to wikieducator now, who are not terribly comfortable using unfamiliar
> > > software no matter how user friendly, and Google is a known commodity.
>  I
> > > respect the open resource philosophy and am a bit leery of any
> commercial
> > > enterprise, even Google but I think we need to be sure that all these
> > > carefully trained folks can actually use the resources and
> soon....sorry to
> > > be always seeing both sides.  Joyce
> >
> > > *Ian Thomson <[email protected]>*
> >
> > > Sent by: [email protected]
> > > 03/08/2010 08:43 PM ZE11Please respond [email protected]
> >
> > >  To   [email protected]
> > >  cc
> > >  bcc   Joyce McKnight/SUNY
> > >  Subject   [WikiEducator] Improving our our search capability -- WE
> need
> > > your advice
> >
> > > From a Developing region (the Pacific islands) struggling to include
> things
> > > like WE into the education system, the simpler and more familiar the
> better.
> >
> > > Many teachers in the region will be familiar with Google and will feel
> more
> > > at home using that than some other little understood engine.
> >
> > > I vote for Google
> >
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