On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 05:25, Jan Visser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ed, you wrote, in response to the assertion that "Printed material is of 
> greater value to a participant because she can take it home" the following: 
> "That is true without one-to-one, 24/7 computing. With it, software is of 
> greater value to children than textbooks, because it includes multimedia, is 
> of much greater capacity, and can be provided at no cost and with the freedom 
> to modify it and share the results. In addition, computers and software are 
> now essential subjects for schools. Not so-called "Computer Literacy" but 
> computer mastery."

Obviously I disagree. I have joined TWB, and will see about raising
these issues with members. I will respond further to the points you
raise here.

> I beg to differ with both positions. Your claim, I think, is assuming too 
> much for the moment as far as the potential impact of computing technology is 
> concerned, and I am saying so inspired by the more than 40 years I've been 
> working (and living for more than half that time) in countries deprived of 
> even the most basic resources like, in the school context, something that 
> could function as a blackboard and a piece of chalk, or even a decent piece 
> of stone or wood to sit on while in class (not necessarily under a roof or 
> complemented with something that could resemble a desk), let alone materials 
> with which to engage in collaborative activities with one's fellow learners 
> for, say, the purpose of exploring and understanding the workings of nature. 
> Doing one's homework at home may be less dependent on having a computer or a 
> book than on having the kind of home that minimally resembles the dwellings 
> you and I live in (not to speak of the homes of the likes of Schwarzenegger, 
> McChrystal and McCain) and particularly on having economic conditions that 
> don't put you as a child in charge of all kinds of tasks that must 
> necessarily be performed to sustain the life of the family and that heavily 
> interfere with fruitful participation in a regular school environment.
>
>
>
> Of course, I'm all for the great and important things you and others are 
> pursuing, but I'm afraid there are no silver bullets. The solutions to 
> improving the quality of human learning around the world in diverse 
> circumstances and multiple cultural contexts are complex because learning is 
> a complex phenomenon. One-to-one computing is possibly part of the solution 
> to reshaping the learning landscape, enabling all to learn, but so are books, 
> TWB, WE and a host of other things. None of them will do the job alone and 
> much will depend on co-evolving contextual factors. One of the important 
> lessons I’ve learned is that it usually stifles the creativity if we focus 
> too strongly on just one dimension of the problem.
>
>
>
> And, while I am at it, let's not forget that there is an enormous wealth of 
> learning beyond formal schooling whereas most of the efforts, including our 
> own in WE, continue to be inspired by the predominant school metaphor, which 
> is strongly rooted in the western culture of the industrial era. We really 
> need to broaden our thinking beyond the perspectives that follow from our 
> primary inclinations.
>
>
>
> I’m sorry to paint a less satisfying picture, but, with due respect to the 
> efforts of TWB (whose coming into being and growth I have followed since my 
> first contacts back in the 1990’s with its founder Fred Mednick), and fully 
> recognizing the valuable intentions of those involved in making one-to-one 
> computing a reality, as well as with deep appreciation for the work of those 
> engaging in producing print or screen based text  and other software, I’m 
> afraid we are only scratching the surface of a problem that is immensely more 
> complex than what is imagined.
>
>
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jan Visser, Ph.D.
>
> President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
>
> E-mail: [email protected]
>
> Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev
>
> Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Edward Cherlin
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Teachers Without Borders (TWB)
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:56, Vtaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello Edward
>
> >
>
> > We were not sure exactly what you were asking. If this doesn't answer
>
> > your question, let's talk further.
>
>
>
> Let's, whether in this mailing list or offline. I'm talking about the
>
> coming wave of one-to-one computing in schools, now that netbook
>
> computers cost less than textbooks. See, for example, the resources
>
> listed at
>
>
>
> http://www.librarianchick.com/ The most complete listing
>
> http://www.clrn.org/fdti/ Math and Science texts for CA
>
> http://www.flossmanuals.net/ Free Software manuals, and how to use Free 
> Software
>
>
>
> I am one of the co-authors of How to Bypass Internet Censorship at
>
> FLOSS Manuals. It has become available in Russian, Chinese, Farsi, and
>
> other relevant languages. I am currently writing an introduction to
>
> the Sugar software for the OLPC XO, now available for most other
>
> computers., and trying to organize a project to create free textbooks
>
> for every school subject in every grade for every country in the
>
> world. We believe that there are major funding opportunities available
>
> from the US Dept. of Education and various international sources. One
>
> of the projects at county level in the US tells me that it has a team
>
> of grant writers it can call on.
>
>
>
> Gov. Schwarzenegger in California is sold on the idea of free digital 
> textbooks
>
>
>
> http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/blog/issue/20090608-arnold-text-blog-textbooks/
>
>
>
> and Gen. McChrystal in Afghanistan seems to be a recent convert. Sen.
>
> John McCain also sees one-to-one computing in education as an
>
> important anti-insurgent tool. It also will allow girls to learn at
>
> home in areas where the Taliban tries to interfere with the public
>
> school system.
>
>
>
> http://blog.laptop.org/2010/05/15/on-afghanistan-2/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157622267805539/
>
>
>
> > All the TWB course materials are available online.
>
> > http://courses.teacherswithoutborders.org/
>
> >
>
> > This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
>
> > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
>
>
>
> Perfect.
>
>
>
> > The TWB Certificate of Teaching Mastery is being added to WikiEducator
>
> > http://wikieducator.org/Teachers_Without_Borders/Certificate_of_Teaching_Mastery
>
> >
>
> > For face-to-face training, these are distributed to participants in
>
> > paper format.
>
> >
>
> > I passed along your question to Konrad Glogowski, TWB Program
>
> > Director. Here is Konrad's reply -
>
> >
>
> > Do you mean our current offline programs? That would translate into
>
> > providing all participants with laptops,
>
>
>
> Exactly. That is why I am talking about one-to-one computing, where
>
> the student gets to take the computer home to use on homework and in
>
> family activities. We find that students from subsistence economies
>
> are helping their parents increase their incomes.
>
>
>
> > which would require quite a bit of funding.
>
>
>
> When we get the promised $75 laptops,
>
> (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/10/olpc-spin-off-plans-75-laptop/) it
>
> will come to $20 billion annually for the billion or so children in
>
> the whole world, plus the cost of installing renewable electricity and
>
> broadband Internet out to the poorest and remote villages. This
>
> assumes a replacement cycle of four years for the laptops. The
>
> electrical and wireless communications systems will last much longer.
>
> We can expect trillions of dollars of increased economic activity as a
>
> result, and we have the opportunity to educate the next generation on
>
> sustainability, among other things.
>
>
>
> > Printed material is of greater value to a participant
>
> > because she can take it home.
>
>
>
> That is true without one-to-one, 24/7 computing. With it, software is
>
> of greater value to children than textbooks, because it includes
>
> multimedia, is of much greater capacity, and can be provided at no
>
> cost and with the freedom to modify it and share the results. In
>
> addition, computers and software are now essential subjects for
>
> schools. Not so-called "Computer Literacy" but computer mastery.
>
>
>
> I would love to have this conversation with all of your members who
>
> are interested, and to help you set up a program to address these
>
> issues, needs, and opportunities.
>
>
>
> > - Konrad
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Konrad Glogowski, Ph.D.
>
> > Program Director
>
> > http://teacherswithoutborders.org
>
> > http://twitter.com/teachersnetwork
>
> > Skype: teachandlearn
>
> > Teachers. Leaders. Worldwide
>
> >
>
> > o (206) 623-0394, ext. 9   |   f (206)-623-0396   |   m (647) 200-1528
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On May 14, 8:36 pm, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Does TWB have any interest in replacing printed textbooks with free
>
> >> software and content?
>
> >>
>
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>
> >> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my 
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> >>
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