Hi John, Agreed -- the gratis and libre differences permeate the OA field as well. In addition Peter Subers' distinction<http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm> between green OA and gold OA (delivery vehicles) is also a useful classification.
The permissions associated with derivative works in a research context also gives rise to interesting debates and tensions which of course complicates the libre components of OA. Interesting times. W On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:26 PM, john stampe <[email protected]> wrote: > The problem is the terminology used. Open access in its original meaning > meant that journals were both without price barriers and without permission > barriers. This is the meaning used in both the Budapest and Berlin > statements. > > However, some in the publishing world are using the term open access to > mean only without price barriers. Some OA advocates are today > distinguishing between "gratis open access" -- that without price barriers > only and "libre open access" -- that with both barriers removed". (See > http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/08-02-08.htm#gratis-libre) > > Regards, > > John > > > <br/>http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS<br/> > http://johnsearth.blogspot.com > > --- On *Wed, 11/23/11, José Mota <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: José Mota <[email protected]> > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Are open access repositories OER? > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 4:55 PM > > > Thank you Ellen, Daniel and Wayne for your feedback :-), > > I think I am not mistaken in thinking that the default of anything > available for free online that doesn't have a license or explicit terms of > use is traditional copyright. In my view, that is the case with > repositories (I am referring to universities or public organisms) that > provide free access to scientific material that can be used in education, > but no license or a statement indicating the terms of use. They are "open > access", and they are educational resources, but reading your comments lead > me to maintain that they are not, or the items they contain, open > educational resources. They are not different from any other materials that > we can use in education and which, despite being freely available online, > do not state their conditions of use. > > The field is evolving so fast I think these ambiguities will tend to be > better clarified in the near future, but for now I'll stick with this > belief. Not that it matters a lot in practical terms, but it does when > you're approaching this from an academic or research perspective. > > Thanks again :-) > > José Mota > Laboratory of Distance Education and eLearning > Universidade Aberta > Portugal > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > -- Wayne Mackintosh <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg>, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation <http://www.oerfoundation.org> Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducator<http://www.wikieducator.org> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg> | identi.ca<http://identi.ca/waynemackintosh> Wikiblog <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]
