Wayne and Patricia, I completely agree with your position on the COL/UNESCO report.
I would suggest that WE consider an archive for all the important documents related to OER. It would act as a historical record of the OER movement in general and WE in particular. It would also make searching documents easier. Regards, John <br/>http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS<br/>http://johnsearth.blogspot.com --- On Thu, 12/1/11, Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> wrote: From: Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 10:43 PM Hi Anil Thanks for your suggestion. In this instance, your objective has been achieved. There is already a static versions available for download from multiple sites, so no need for a policy decision in my view. Moreover, there are other sites which can accommodate static versions of publications like this including the recently announced UNESCO OER portal. The time and effort to constitute an official WIkiEducator Workgroup to develop a policy proposal for static versions of documents published by third parties would appear to be unproductive use of community time. Thoughts? Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Anil Prasad <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Patricia, In simple terms my suggestion was,s to have a policy to provide a space for keeping CC-BY and CC-BY-SA original works/documents :) I think, in no way, it defeat the CC freedoms On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Patricia Schlicht <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Anil, In my personal view your suggestion, to want to develop a policy, to prevent cc-by and cc-by-sa originals and derivatives from any changes, would defeat the purpose of these copyright licenses, but I know what you are saying. I also appreciate the fact that you want to differ between an original version and an upgrade, so I suggest the following: 1. We would as Wayne already suggested insert the link to a pdf document, this way, keeping the original as is; and 2. We could insert another Tab in the book template, to enable our community to suggest changes under the book headers, by chapter. This way, any changes can be documented, provided our editors enter them. This would need to be monitored. 3. Advantage: The book will be updated and added-value to. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Anil Cheers,Patricia From: Anil Prasad [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:41 AM To: Patricia Schlicht Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil, I think it would be better to provide a clear link to the published (non-editable) version. The CC license permits editing and improvements so there is no need to lock editing in my view. Wayne On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Anil Prasad <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Patricia, > > GREAT!!! A BIG THANK YOU!!! > > One suggestion, as these are approved documents, we may place a template > to request readers to avoid direct editing of the content since it is an > approved document and to add suggestions/comments on the discussion pages. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Patricia Schlicht <[email protected]>wrote: >>> Dear All,**** >> >> ** **>> >> Please note that the following joint COL UNESCO OER publications are now>> >> available on WikiEducator:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *A Basic Guide for Open Educational Resources (OER)* >> >> ** ** >> >> http://wikieducator.org/A_Basic_Guide_for_OER/Home**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Guidelines for Open Educational Resources For Higher Education* >> >> ** ** >> >> >> http://wikieducator.org/Guidelines_for_Open_Educational_Resources_for_Higher_Education/Home >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Warm wishes**** >> >> Patricia**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Patricia Schlicht* >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] > > > > > -- > Warm regards > > Anil > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad > http://www.apletters.blogspot.com > > > --Wayne Mackintosh <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg>, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation <http://www.oerfoundation.org> Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. 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