Hi Valerie and Derek Thinking about the technologies for hosting OERu micro Open Online Courses (mOOCs) in parallel with university courses is interesting. At the OERF we've been working and experimenting with the notion of learner choice regarding the technologies they use for interaction and communication and syndicating these communications using RSS inspired by the work Stephen has been doing with gRSShopper . The OERu delivery model is more akin to a PLE approach.
Valerie - no, we are not required to host the mOOC discussions within a closed LMS -- in fact the University of Canterbury (UCan) students will be free to post their discussions and interactions where they want to. All the materials for the mOOC are open and anyone can participate. Registration is not mandatory. However, if OERu students want to receive course announcements via email -- they need to register an email address to receive these announcements. (The Ucan students will obviously receive instructions via the LMS). We are aiming to widen freedom of choice for the registered Ucan students who want to use the institutional Moodle for their discussion posts during the mOOC. Ucan students will use their preferred technology. Our research data suggests that a large number of learners still prefer using the LMS for sequencing their learning. In previous prototypes of an open online courses we have run a Moodle version of the open course simultaneously with an open wiki version. Our course evaluation data indicates that approximately: - 40% of the learners preferred accessing the open course materials via the LMS - 20% preferred the open wiki version - Interestingly, 35% preferred accessing the course using both technologies during the course. As Derek has indicated, there are compliance issues that we need to manage - for example: Only registered students can access the UCan Moodle; part of the summative assessment requires active participation from the UCan and we need a reliable mechanism to record this within the context of the full course (not just the mOOC part); and fee paying UCan students are entitled to tutorial support from their lecturers as part of contract with the University. In the OERu model, parallel delivery among a network of partners is envisaged for the future. Consider for example an OERu mOOC where a number of OERu anchor partners incorporate the mOOC in local courses running simultaneously at each institution using the local LMS (in parallel mode). For this reason we need to prototype the technologies to enable parallel delivery of a mOOC using a number of institutional LMSs in parallel. The approach we are taking with the Scenario Planning mOOC<http://wikieducator.org/SP4Ed> prototype is to designate a number of forums as "public forums" which will be harvested for the SP4Ed course feed. We will host the content of the designated public LMS posts on one of the OERF servers so the free OERu learners will have access to the content of these discussions. Will be interesting to see how this works in a live course setting and looking forward to the prototype. I hope you will join us. Wayne On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Derek Chirnside <[email protected]>wrote: > V, you may not like the way the LMS is used, but that is the problem of > the designer, not the system. At least to a certain extent. > > Re your connent on LMSs: I'm not convinced yet: an LMS can provide some > useful functionality to support mOOC or MOOCs. My view is pragmatic. Free > range based MOOCs often just loose the plot for many individuals who have > signed up. In my experience. > > I bet Nicky Davis has got something to do with the current CU mOOC I was > asking about. In which case I will be interested to see what nice little > tweaks emerge. I'm just sad students don't get to take a field trip to a > singe CU MOOC platform and do the whole thing there (which would be easier, > simpler etc for staff and participants). Philosophically i don't like the > idea of a class system of two platforms > > But i am open I'm assuming there are hidden official compliance barriers > that mean Wayne needs another system. Hence the pilot. > > Bring it on. > > Derek. > > Derek Chirnside > http://lits.gen.nz - +64 21 511 303 > Sent from mobile which may (or may not) explain typos and non sequiturs. > > > > > On 17/07/2013, at 7:04 AM, Vtaylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > As I recall, the daily email updates for CCK?? that Stephen Downes > produced with RSShopper included Moodle posts. That doesn't help a lot in > this case as the LMS is closed (it was open access in CCK). > > Are you required to have the enrolled student discussions be inside a > closed LMS? How about have all discussions open access for all > participants. May not be the same as the course or even same Moodle > installation. Worst case - your enrolled students have one "class" for the > university portion, and another location (class / login) for the associated > open discussions. > > We ran into this - couldn't have non-students have accounts to participate > in open discussions, even though registered students would benefit, and the > anticipated discussion volume was small. > > MOOCs (and mOOCs) are better without the structure of an LMS, IMHO. The > Stanford courses are so "business as usual" - instructor-directed, > restricted by the format, regimented by "revealing" information with > enforced deadlines and cutoffs. 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