Hi Simon, Thanks for your detailed submission.
A critical path challenge for a global philanthropic collaboration like the OERu is to bootstrap a scalable but fiscally sustainable model. To follow Roosevelt's advice: "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." For now we are using toyish tools to take us to the next phase of our evolution. Our preference is to take small steps - steps which are small enough to fail, without compromising our vision to widen access to more affordable education with pathways to credible degrees. W On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM, simonfj <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > I'll just put these ideas here rather than just clog up your wiki 'talk'. > You seem to have itemised the main issues. > Can I bring them down to just two - Technology and Marketing. > > Technology > > You're aware that my primary interest with the technology is to see the > OERu have a best of breed infrastructure, which is so good and easy-to-use > that it has global teachers and learners clamouring to get their hands on, > and share, it. You also know I stay across these developments from the > perspective of NREN managers, usually via their continental associations. > There are so many sessions at this week's tnc > meeting<https://tnc2014.terena.org/>that concern *a > user group* like OERU, but this > one<https://tnc2014.terena.org/core/session/36>might useful to get an idea of > their National network manager's > perspective. > > The aim, from their perspective, is that OER members will be able to log > on to services or apps <http://www.internet2.edu/cloud-services/> using > their institutional federated <http://www.incommon.org/participants/> log > ins and share them globally. They have now proved thiat they can > (technically) > inter-federate<http://www.geant.net/service/eduGAIN/Pages/home.aspx>members > globally. The trouble is that even though each federation will run > lots of open calls <http://www.geant.net/opencall/About/Pages/Home.aspx>(in > attempts to develop the kinds of combinations of services that global > groups might want), they have yet to have a global project like OERu > address their National network managers as a global group, and say "these > are the services we want" to share. (unless it's a flagship project like LHC, > > <http://www.vidyo.com/company/news-and-events/press-releases/vidyo-selected-by-cern-to-connect-20000-scientists-for-mass-global-collaboration-on-high-energy-physics-research-and-lhc-experiments/>where > they just ignore the network managers, like most OER groups). > > The result? On one hand we lots of groups like the OERu strapping together > toys like Google + with air. On the other. the flagships buy services which > other OERers can only dream about. > http://www.vidyo.com/company/news-and-events/press-releases/vidyo-selected-by-cern-to-connect-20000-scientists-for-mass-global-collaboration-on-high-energy-physics-research-and-lhc-experiments/ > > And so far as any potential learner, outside a NREN, network sharing these > services; no chance. They must be able to afford the basic bandwidth, > privately (from a local ISP), which is often rarely possible. All I will > mention here is that there are developments going on in NRENs like Surfnet > that address how any potential learner might use an eduroam ( > https://www.eduroam.org/ ) account to log on to an NREN, via private > ISPs. > > Marketing > > The old world of setting up a shingle, like http://oeru.org/ , and them > adding lots of (in OERU's case) courses , and them promoting the shingle, > is over. In the world of private media, it is just about dead. Just ask any > media org. > http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulmagnone/2013/06/22/4-big-data-trends-that-change-everything/ > > These days "we can't generate courses without students". That's why > infrastructure is the first step. Gone are the days (almost) when a uni > packaged courses for jobs which no longer exist. That's the old supply-side > world, which can only exist in monopolies like Nationally accredited > institutions (and not for much longer). We now live in a demand-side world, > where looking at the jobs to be filled, and then designing courses to > satisfy employers, is the model. That's why job networks like LinkedIn and > Seek have been so successful. They just cherry-pick the courses whose > skills they see employers want. > http://www.seeklearning.com.au/courses-by-delivery-method > > The interesting part is that Wayne's skills are ones which are in great > demand. i.e. 'community building/online moderating'. Just do a Google on > similar words. The only problem he/we have is that the global tools he/we > have to use are so toyish. > > OK. Excuse my overstatements. It's just easier to make the points. There > are quite a few things going on in the govspace which are going to need the > kind of open governance which OERu represents. e.g. > https://mydex.org/blog/2013/11/29/the-role-of-the-individual-in-digital-by-default-public-services/ > But first step first. What online (cloudy) learning environment (inter-net > services) would OERers like to share, globally? > If we can have an agreement here, we can take the next step of presenting > the spec to NREN managers ,,,, at the same time. > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "WikiEducator" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation UNESCO, COL and ICDE Chair in OER, Otago Polytechnic & OER Foundation Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: Mackiwg -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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