If we rangeblock all of Verizon, we're giving Grawp exactly what he wants. He wants to cause disruption, and causing a huge rangeblock is success for him.
X! On Dec 24, 2008, at 5:10 PM [Dec 24, 2008 ], Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jay Litwyn <[email protected]> wrote: >> For a newcomer to this thread, the abuse is in the what will only >> stand for >> ten seconds category, and as far as I know, the user was >> addressed. It is >> probably even hard to be sure that Hanson does not hav accounts >> that he >> reserves for honest work. >> >> The United States Criminal Code, title 18, section 1030, >> >> I think we would hav trouble demonstrating that wikipedia is >> protected >> (keyword in the legislation) by anything but tedious labour, and >> it's also >> hard to show damage in dollar terms, unless all the checkuser >> clerks are >> paid. I see nothing, because it's legislation geared towards >> milnet (domains >> ending in .mil). Maybe the secure part of wikipedia would qualify >> if they >> required bank-signed public keys. >> >> http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview >> +t17t20+608+0++%28computer%29%20%20AND%20%28%2818%29%20ADJ%20USC% >> 29%3ACITE%20AND%20%28USC%20w%2F10%20%281030%29%29%3ACITE%20%20%20% >> 20%20%20%20%20%20 >> >> The search term "computer" should not be necessary, and for some >> reason, it >> is. If the URL breaks, then start with: >> >> http://uscode.house.gov/search/criteria.shtml >> >> or only the domain name. I do not *think* we hav any basis for >> criminal >> proceedings. Physical, yes. ISPs, as far as I know, cannot compel >> read >> access to wikipedia. We don't block reads, either. Writers are >> about one in >> ten thousand. Hopefully, they know who to complain to at verizon >> and hav an >> account, already. Then it's just a matter of shutting down Hanson's >> accounts, methinks. The hard question is how long the block should >> be, for >> me, who is not in a position to make it. >> >> Acceptable Use Policies (AUPs) govern the internet, not the >> CANSPAM act. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > We should really consider the option of making the rangeblock, with a > very clear blocked page, that clearly indicated where users can > complain (verizon) about not being able to edit. And only we know for > sure that Verizon is in the know, that they do realise there is the > option that all of their users are getting blocked because this one > abusive account, that they are unable or unwilling to adress. > > What I would like to know is: Who is currently contacting or trying to > contact Verizon, and, if we would consider the step of rangeblocking > all of Verizon, there should be on site discussion about this first, > at least on the administrators noticeboard. > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
