Maybe we can set it for only 1 day, but use a JS hack to say that it's indefinite. That might get the word out to them. :)
X! On Dec 25, 2008, at 5:12 AM [Dec 25, 2008 ], Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Ian Woollard > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 25/12/2008, Soxred93 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> If we rangeblock all of Verizon, we're giving Grawp exactly what he >>> wants. He wants to cause disruption, and causing a huge >>> rangeblock is >>> success for him. >> >> It doesn't matter what he does or doesn't want. It only matters what >> the wikipedia wants. Probably rangeblocking Verizon would be bad for >> the Wikipedia's reputation ("Anyone can edit except for Verizon >> users!"), Verizon would have to be incredibly unresponsive and acting >> in incredibly bad faith to have to/really want to do that, but it >> remains a possibility. >> >> There might be a better case though for automatically, temporarily, >> black holing or edit blocking or simply delaying the edits (until a >> human can hand check them) of individual IPs/accounts from >> anywhere on >> the internet that engage in certain broad patterns of activity. >> >> The important thing is to minimise the length/number of times that >> any >> particular IP is able to engage in Grawp-like or other stereotypic >> behaviour. While he/she/they would be able to soon find another >> IP, it >> significantly mitigates the damage that can be done, and minimises >> the >> cleanup. >> >>> X! >> >> -- >> -Ian Woollard >> >> We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. Life in a perfectly >> imperfect world would be much better. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > ] > It seems hard to believe that Verizon would let such a rangeblock sit > for long. I think the only message we need to get over to them is > "dude, we're not kidding. We don't want to rangeblock your entire ISP, > but this one person who has an internet account with you is causing us > major headaches. Because of your dynamic IP adresses, we are unable to > deal with it on an individual level. We are open to suggestions on how > we can solve the problem, but if you are really not willing to help us > out here, we simply have no other choise but to block every IP adress > in your range from editing, as much as we'd hate to do that" > > I can't believe that bigwigs at Verizon would be willing to let that > happen, the question is just how to get through to the right people > that can do something about it. > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
