There was no prior conflict as far as I know. Just good faith misunderstanding. All in the pursuit of good doggerel.
-Durova On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Ray Saintonge <[email protected]> wrote: > stevertigo wrote: > > Durova, perhaps taking some cue from Gwern, wrote some poetically > > critical and even ugly things above. But while Gwern mostly attacked > > the concept of poetry on wikien-l (oh-so-cleverly I might add), Durova > > appeared to have made it personal, and, for lack of a better word, > > ugly. I don't quite understand how a silly or even stupid poem like > > the one I posted might deserve such a response, but I have given it > > some thought and broken it down a little. > > > > Wow! I'm glad you let us know that it was a personal attack; the rest of > us might not have known that otherwise. I thought she was just > commenting on your poetry. She did use a limerick format. > > > I was motivated to write this by three things 1) personal hate attacks > > and the concepts behind them need to be destroyed, 2) I needed to > > address it in order to move on to other list contributions (I've been > > away so long; I had forgotten we had jerks on this list) and 3) > > correcting Durova's own personal misconceptions, which firstly appears > > to be that she can personally attack someone, without real cause even, > > and she would receive respect, love, and even grace for it. And > > secondly, that she can attempt to destroy someone personally and not > > meet certain undeniable correction. > > > > Is there more to the metaphor in the verse than meets the eye, perhaps > an unmentioned conflict that started long before this? > > > The dominant theories are: > > 1) Durova and Gwern were motivated to make the point that poetry (even > > bad poetry like mine) is altogether unwelcome on wikien. Attempting to > > sound ironic, but sounding rather more unpleasant, they used poetry > > itself to make their point. An insipid point, to be sure; even moreso > > than my pointless, harmless, poem and the posting thereof. 2) Durova > > (less so Gwern) appeared to have and express some animosity toward me > > personally. I don't know quite why; I can't remember even having said > > a word to her personally, on any matter at all. > > > > 3) It also occurs to me that certain people might mismanage certain > > concepts: Someone without sufficient self-conceptual distance between > > their head and their glutes might so misinterpret a harmless everyday > > concept like "poo" and feel entirely soiled by it. The solution is not > > to get personally uglier and uglier; lashing out at the very concept > > as it were; but to simply use personal force of mind to create some > > distance between the two bodily concepts in question. > > > > All is now forgiven. We disembodied online beings can now go and do > > other and maybe better things. With all apologies.. for the poetry. > > Anyone who attempts poetry or other literary tricks in this forum does > so at his own risk. We have some very serious people here who relish > the opportunity to add more weight to levity. I considered responding > but the versification did not come to me straight away to express my > vision of the poor ants scattering in all directions to avoid being > turd-bombed by a one-footer. > > Ec > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > -- http://durova.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
