[email protected] wrote: > I'm in agreement with David here. > I do not want to be a policeman on behaviour, but I would certainly be > interested in, and already do, patrol content changes and pass or > remove spurious details. I think we all do that a bit. Being a > policeman is quite a different role. > > So a flagged rev backlog will only be addressed if we allow all > established users to so address it, and deny the power to admins to > unseat a member of the group. It should probably be automatic at a > certain edit count or length of stay or something of that nature. > There is absolutely no need to create any additional powers for admins, > and we already have process in place to handle people who are truly > disruptive to the system even though long-term participants. We don't > need any more of that. > > Will Johnson >
This makes flagged no more than a tool to reduce obvious vandalism - and quite useless for protecting against real BLP harm (see my last post for reasoning). If we have "anyone can review" then we have "any incompetent can review" and if admins can't quickly remove the reviewing right without process and paperwork then any good-faith incompetent will continue to review. Our current vandalism RCP system regularly screws up with BLP. It reverts people who blank libels - and seldom even casts a glance at the current state of any article. You think giving these same people more work will solve the subtler BLP problem? Again, if the bad edit is immediately obvious to the reviewer, it is also obvious to the reader - so it is not particularly damaging to the subject. I am of the opinion that full flagging will make little or no difference to the BLP problem. (That said, it can't do much harm - so let's try it). However, the current idiotic proposal is utterly useless and conterproductive. For far to long the flagging white elephant has been throw up as chaff to avoid any real steps on BLP harm reduction. For once, let's listen to the Germans who seem to have some useful things to teach us. Erik, or someone who knows, can you outline all the things de.wp does differently from en.wp - and whether it has less of a problem with legitimate subject complaints? _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
