On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:37 PM, doc <[email protected]> wrote: > Oskar Sigvardsson wrote: >> This controversy has been going on for a long while now, and I just >> want to say something to both Jimmy and Larry: >> >> Suck it up, and take your petty fight elsewhere! I don't know what >> happened in the early days of wikipedia, and I don't much care to. You >> have different versions of the same story, and the constant carping is >> getting tiring. And wikipedia and wikipedians are getting caught right >> in the middle. Wikipedia is getting a bad rep because of all this, and >> many different users are locked in an endless struggle trying to do >> either Jimmy's or Larry's bidding. >> >> We don't need it. This is an issue between *you two*, and every time >> you start one of your diatribes or Jimmy asks for articles to be >> changed, it puts us, the community, in an impossible situation. It >> needs to end. >> >> So, on behalf of those who actually write wikipedia, I say: suck it >> the hell up! >> >> Larry, Jimmy readily admits that you where the original >> Editor-in-Chief of wikipedia, and with helping to form some of the >> early core policies. Isn't that enough? You've already basically >> denounced wikipedia in as many ways and places you can think of (not >> least this thread), why would you even want to be considered one of >> its chief architects? You've got a whole project to yourself, I >> suggest you stick to improving that. >> >> Jimmy, stop getting involved in the articles that concern yourself, >> Larry and the history of wikipedia. It's an impossible conflict of >> interest, not only for you, but for the wikipedians that are loyal to >> you (who, again, are put in an impossible situation). You know better >> than anyone that the wikipedia process works beautifully. Trust the >> process that works for the rest of the encyclopedia, and stay the hell >> away and let the editors sort it out. I think you have enough insight >> to realize that you're not neutral on the issue. >> >> So, please, both of you, get yourself some blogs and hash it out away >> from wikipedia servers, and away from community at large. We don't >> need it. >> >> Rant over. >> >> --Oskar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > Thank you! > > That's about the most balanced analysis I've read yet. Far better than > most of the pledges of allegiance to Jimmy, or the "two minute hate" > response to Larry, that we've had on this list. > > As long as neutral people write the relevant articles, most of us can > either stop caring, or draw our own conclusions on who (if anyone) is > deluded, self-deluded, spinning, lying or otherwise manipulating history. > > Me, I'll go back to adopting the mantra of a wise man: "Decline to > participate, sorry"
Hear, hear (to both of you)! -- Sam PGP public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Korn/public_key _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
