> 2009/8/11 Marc Riddell <[email protected]>: >> on 8/11/09 4:13 PM, George Herbert at [email protected] wrote: >> >>> SilkTork has started closing down and summarizing the poll results. >>> >>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility/Poll >>> >>> I am still reviewing the statistics and sum total comments, but some >>> takeaways I already have - >>> >>> 0. It's a problem. >>> 1. We're not enforcing consistently at all, and that's hurting us. >>> 2. We're BITEing new users. >>> >> Is anyone really surprised at this? On this very List people are constantly >> bragging about how wonderful Wikipedia is; focusing exclusively on how big >> it is. Yet completely ignoring how screwed up the culture is. It's like a >> company's media people pushing how good their product is, and how big their >> company is, and completely avoiding how poorly their workers are treated - >> while those in the executive suite are focused on trying to persuade people >> to invest money in them. Arrogance without wisdom is hubris. This is a >> formula for disaster.
on 8/11/09 6:25 PM, Thomas Dalton at [email protected] wrote: > > Wikipedia is a project and a community but, above all, it is an > encyclopaedia. It is an encyclopaedia that a lot of people find very > useful. Our system is working. There is certainly room for > improvement, but I don't see this disaster you speak of. > Thank you, Thomas, you just made my point. This is exactly the type of focus and denial I was speaking of. Marc Riddell _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
