On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]>wrote:
> 2009/9/5 Gwern Branwen <[email protected]>: > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Thomas Dalton<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> 2009/9/5 <[email protected]>: > >>> Charles a few things. > >>> > >>> You do not need to be in the US to read a Google Book. There is a > thing > >>> called proxy or super proxy or something of that sort, which will mask > where > >>> you are, and thus allow anyone to read a book as if they were in the > US. > >> > >> That is probably illegal, though. > > > > Or at least a violation of the Terms of Service. > > Contract violation *is* illegal. Sort of. If I go broke and fail to pay my mortgage, would you say I did something illegal? I'm not sure it's fair to refer to a mere breach of contract as "illegal". > (Assuming a website ToS is a binding contract - has that ever been tested > in court?) Personally I've taken to the argument that a ToS is a license. It solves the problem that the other party need not explicitly agree to it (but if they don't agree to it they have no right to access the website), and it solves the problem that minors are not bound by contracts. But in that case violation of a Terms of Service might actually be illegal, and *not* just a breach of contract (similar to the way violation of a software license might constitute copyright infringement and not just a breach of contract). Not that it's likely you're going to get in any trouble for bypassing Google Books restrictions through proxies. To get back on topic, I don't think there should be a link to Google Books at all. The reference should be the book. If you want to mention "accessed through Google Books", fine. But the link should go to a generic page which potentially works with more sites than just Google Books, like [[Special:BookSources]]. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
