>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I could make out the last sentence
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> contained the phrases, "meaning of consensus", and "consent of the
>>>>>> entire
>>>>>> community". No one has yet defined for me the "meaning of
>>>>>> consensus",
>>>>>> nor
>>>>>> described for me how the "consent of the entire community" is
>>>>>> determined.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>> 
>>>>> on 2/1/11 7:52 PM, Fred Bauder at [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We discuss policy issues at length, consider the reasons for adopting
>>>>> alternatives, and come to agreement.
>>>>> 
>>>> C'mon Fred, isn't that rather vague? What I'm asking (again) is, after
>>>> the
>>>> discussion is other, how is it determined that a consensus of the
>>>> Community
>>>> has been reached?
>>>> 
>>>> Marc
>>> 
>> on 2/1/11 9:24 PM, Fred Bauder at [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>> People agree and support the decision.
>>> 
>> Fred, who are these people that are making these decisions and declaring
>> that there in Community consensus, knowing that this "consensus" cannot
>> be
>> factually validated?
>> 
>> Marc

on 2/1/11 10:16 PM, Fred Bauder at [email protected] wrote:
> 
> The rising of the sun could not be factually validated if we thought like
> that. People write on the talk page of the policy that they agree; do not
> change the language of the policy, which anyone can edit, remember; and
> follow it.
> 
And how many of these Talk Page "votes" are usually cast before the results
are announced as being the "consensus" of the entire Wikipedia Community?

Marc


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