On 09/17/11 6:04 PM, MuZemike wrote: > I think that certainly does happen, mainly because some don't like > change. Many RfCs and proposals contain oppose reasons such as "solution > in search of a problem" or "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Other than > what Alan mentioned, this has also applied to any technical changes to > the system. > > Other proposals get so bogged down in endless stalemate and > filibustering (like with Pending Changes), nothing ever gets done or > moves forward. That's where the "consensus-based model" fails miserably. > > On the other hand, a straight "vote" may not also be desirable, > especially if the results may be close to 50-50, because you then > alienate too much of the community that way. Resistance to change is a chronic disease. At the same time voting is evil for the very reason that you state. That is made worse by framing questions in a win/lose context. I have consistently believed that no vote should ever be closed completely. Action thresholds can be defined, but that should not close a vote. People should be allowed to continue voting indefinitely, or even change their original vote, until a change threshold is reached. That change may never become a reality, but even the right to support the obvious gives a feeling of participation.
Ec > On 9/17/2011 3:54 PM, Alan Liefting wrote: >> Is it just me or do others find it difficult to instigate any sort of >> changes to policies, guidelines, layout, Manual of Style and related >> matters regardless of how minor they are? >> Could it be that WP is a reflection of human behaviour and has become a >> talkfest where nothing changes because of our inherently conservative >> nature? >> Or am I trying to satisfy the readers of WP rather than editors and >> readers? Since readers do not edit they never get to have a say so the >> editors get what they want (yes I know - editors are readers as well). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
