Jan, I don't have a camera that does this, so I can't test it, but do I
understand from this that the EXIF info automatically gets stuffed into
a Template:Location (camera location) field as it stands now? Because that
way for the countries who have their act together with the GIS coordinates
(like the Netherlands, Ahem!) we should do nothing, and then for the
countries who are missing coordinates, we can have a bot move this info
into Template:Object location and dump it into a category "GIS coordinates
for XXX monuments  under review" or some such thing
Jane

2011/7/15 Jan Ainali <[email protected]>

> Well, the EXIF coordinates I believe the bot put in a Template:Location
> (that's for camera location). The monuments themselves should be mapped
> towards Template:Object location.
>
> If we already have the locations for the monuments, then the user should
> only need to worry about what monument was photographed and we should work
> some magic in the background to poulate the object location template.
>
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> Jan Ainali
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>
> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell <[email protected]>
>
>> Awesome! Then the next step is trying to use them somehow, while keeping
>> in mind Tomasz' point, i.e. those coordinates could be far away. I really
>> don't like the idea of putting the burden of GIS coordinates on the
>> uploader, unless this EXIF feature is there already. I think the upload form
>> needs to recognize this and ask if those coordinates can be used for the
>> object or better for the camera, or something like that
>>
>>
>> 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali <[email protected]>
>>
>>> AFAIK, if the the coordinates are stored in the EXIF-information of the
>>> file, there is a bot on Commons who takes care of covering it to the right
>>> template.
>>>
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>>> 2011/7/15 Tomasz Ganicz <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell <[email protected]>:
>>>> > Hmm. That brings to mind the fact that modern camera's have a GIS
>>>> system
>>>> > built in -- does the upload form harvest this info?Technically
>>>> speaking,
>>>> > this is not the coordinates of the monument, but of the viewpoint of
>>>> the
>>>> > camera, which is often close enough!
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> But not always. You take sometimes a picture from a quite distance.
>>>> See for example:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Italy_Florence_St_Maria_del_Fiore_1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> So, to make it proper - the uploader should insert both - the
>>>> possition of photographer and possion of the monument.
>>>>
>>>> I think the upload form could have some "advanced"  options, which are
>>>> not obligatory, bu the uploader can fill them if he/she needs, and we
>>>> can encourage people to do this. The form can be very simple in its
>>>> basic form and have "more options" button just like reference tool in
>>>> Wikipedia.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
>>>> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
>>>> http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz
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