Hi there,
Perhaps it would be better to use as abbreviaton the ISO-3166-1, like AT for Austria and so on and one common common english for each category like monument-AT , -NL, PT and so on

K@rl



Am 31.07.2011 20:41, schrieb AleXXw:
Hi there, Redirect should not any the problem ;) Most of the templates will be placed by Bots or German natives, so i think the "Ö" shouldn't be a big issue. What name would you prefer, {{DOA}} isn't my favorite...
Greets
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Alex
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 15:51, Jane Darnell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hubert & Bas,
    I was thinking of DOA for Denmalgeschutste Object of Austria, but
    that also is short for "Dead on Arrival". Maybe abbreviations are
    not a good idea after all.

    After your first reaction Bas, I found another template for this
    type of information on the English Wikipedia:
    Template:Designation. This template is used by the Historical
    Sites WIkiproject, and there is some discussion to use it for the
    US NRHP wikiproject (National Register of Historic Places). I
    think this template is what I was looking for, and so whatever the
    Bots can live with on Commons is probably fine. The name may be
    long, but it certainly is not ambiguous and everyone can see this
    is Austria and not Germany or some other country that refers to
    monuments as "Denkmaler".

    Jane


    2011/7/31 Bas vb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

        isn't a redirect possible?

        {{DOO}} or something, the most use of the name will be by bots.

        Another thing:

        I've set up
        
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Commons_infrastructure#Status_per_country

        MVg,

        Bas

        > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:42:47 +0200
        > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        > To: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        > Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Identification structure
        on Commons, a must have before 1 september.
        >
        > we will rename our "reeeeeeally long Template-name"!
        Inbetween 24 Hours!
        > Thanks for advice!
        >
        > greetings
        > Hubertl
        >
        > Am 31.07.2011 10:30, schrieb Jane Darnell:
        > > Bas,
        > > Thanks so much for your mail - suddenly the whole template
        thing became
        > > much clearer for me! I need to gather all of these
        templates now,
        > > because I would like to set up a template structure on the
        english
        > > wikipedia like the one for Template:Rijksmonument. I added
        the text from
        > > your mail to the project page here:
        > >
        
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011#How_to_contribute_to_this_WLM_initiative
        > >
        > > Hubert, I noticed your template has a reeeeeeally long
        name. Of course I
        > > hope that the user won't need to type that in by hand, but
        is there a
        > > way to shorten it up a bit? I want to make a similar
        template for the
        > > Austrian monuments on the English wikipedia, and I noticed
        many people
        > > use abbreviations for the numbers (in Romania, it's called
        an LMI number).
        > >
        > > Jane
        > >
        > > 2011/7/31 Hubert <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>
        > >
        > > Austria will have this too until September!
        > >
        > > greetings Hubertl
        > >
        > > Am 30.07.2011 19:02, schrieb Bas vb:
        > > > Hello everybody,
        > > >
        > > > Last year we had very much benefits from a good and proper
        > > structure on
        > > > commons, important was that we could tag the pictures
        with the
        > > identifiers.
        > > > Currently there are 7 countries/areas which have this
        structure
        > > > (see
        > >
        
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_heritage_monuments_with_known_IDs)
        > > > - Andorra
        > > > - Flanders (Belgium)
        > > > - Estonia
        > > > - Netherlands
        > > > - Romania
        > > > - Spain
        > > > - Wallonia (Belgium)
        > > >
        > > > The idea is to set up a similar structure for all
        participating areas
        > > > and countries (whenever possible).
        > > > Together with structured tables on the local wiki (with
        the identifier
        > > > as a field) this will provide an easy way to add missing
        pictures. And
        > > > well it's one of the requirements that pictures have an
        identifier.
        > > >
        > > > I think it's the best idea when the other countries,
        which don't
        > > have a
        > > > similar structure yet contact me (I'm away from 4-13
        august) or one of
        > > > the persons who has allready set up a similar structure.
        You can
        > > find me
        > > > on IRC (name "basvb" if I'm not in the
        Wikilovesmonumentschannel
        > > I'm in
        > > > #wikipedia-nl), on my commons or preferably my nlwiki
        talkpage or with
        > > > an e-mail.
        > > >
        > > > Mvg,
        > > >
        > > > Bas
        > > >
        > > >
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