On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>wrote:
> In the past we did for example receive a lot of criticism when using Apple > products or courses for non-open source software. I could for example > imagine offering a license on PhotoShop Pro, but I suspect that would cause > some criticism - even though it would possibly be useful to the > photographers. > > Hi Lodewijk, I can understand the criticism, and would actually be on the side of those preferring Free Software [?] but that is just my opinion. To avoid any clash, we can offer photography courses, not necessarily associated with software. For example, we can examine the courses at: http://www.creativelive.com/photography I have attended the free version of some of their courses and they are very good. I am sure there will be a course of interest for every winner. Regards Mónica Mora > Lodewijk > > > 2013/7/28 Jan Ainali <[email protected]> > >> I am not sure what would clash, but some obvious options are upgrades on >> Ubuntu One, Flickr or Dropbox. >> >> Do you have any examples on services that would clash with an open spirit >> community? >> >> *Med vänliga hälsningar, >> Jan Ainali* >> >> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige<http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida> >> >> 0729 - 67 29 48 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/7/28 Lodewijk <[email protected]> >> >>> Do you have specific suggestions of those that don't clash too much with >>> the open spirit community and are specifically handy to photographers? >>> >>> Lodewijk >>> >>> >>> 2013/7/28 Jan Ainali <[email protected]> >>> >>>> How about prizes like online backup? Some of the pro-alternatives are >>>> quite expensive. They would be very easy to pay for though and give someone >>>> access to. Actually not only backup, but all sorts of online services could >>>> be used. >>>> >>>> *Med vänliga hälsningar, >>>> Jan Ainali* >>>> >>>> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige<http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida> >>>> >>>> 0729 - 67 29 48 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/7/28 Lodewijk <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Hi Karthik, >>>>> >>>>> thanks for sharing! >>>>> >>>>> I am strongly of the opinion that we should be able to do better than >>>>> vouchers (as we discussed). With so many national teams having experience >>>>> with prizes, I hope we will be able to come up with something better. >>>>> >>>>> The way monetary prizes are being received in different countries >>>>> varies widely. Sometimes people expect just that, and they will use the >>>>> money they get as prize to invest in their photography. That sounds >>>>> totally >>>>> fine, and that is also why a voucher system might be acceptable. However, >>>>> putting an amount on a prize sounds so... simplistic. It feels a little >>>>> like paying someone to make a photo - to make a contribution. Awarding >>>>> something useful directly, feels better to me. As an example, in 2011 we >>>>> were able to offer a few other prizes, such as a night in an art hotel in >>>>> St. Petersburg and a tour flight off the most western point of Europe in >>>>> Portugal. Both are however quite local and impossible to accept for >>>>> someone >>>>> living at a great distance without funds to travel there. >>>>> >>>>> So what alternative prizes could there be, that are fairly location >>>>> independent (at least serve a number of countries in the neighborhood), >>>>> and >>>>> have a similar value as suggested by Karthik? It is not bad to have a few >>>>> continent-dependent prizes I guess, as long as there's a good distribution >>>>> (because of the principle 'first prize winner gets first pick - he can >>>>> choose the third prize too, if he likes). >>>>> >>>>> Any input welcomed! >>>>> >>>>> Lodewijk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/7/27 Karthik Nadar <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Correction!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Karthik Nadar < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear monument clickers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the WLM international team has drafted prizes for the international >>>>>>> and will be happy to re- work if anyone has any suggestions! So far, we >>>>>>> have been buying vouchers for the Prize winners which didn’t work well >>>>>>> previous year as the contest went global. We had to take help from >>>>>>> Chapters >>>>>>> and Individuals to buy vouchers for the winners, and then reimburse them >>>>>>> from the international budget. That was very time consuming at most of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would welcome if you got any suggestions. If you would agree that >>>>>>> giving out vouchers is the best process and we should continue that, do >>>>>>> also let us know that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The (draft) prizes for the 2013 contest will be as follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prizes (probably in the form of vouchers) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remarks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1st Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wikimania (London) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ 2.000,00 Euros (estimation) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2nd Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 500 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3rd Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 400 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 300 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 200 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 100 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 100 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 11th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New entry^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 12th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New entry^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 13th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New entry^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 14th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New entry^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 15th Prize >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 50 Euros >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New entry^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TOTAL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2.000,00 Euros (excluding Wikimania) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grand total: 4.000,00 (including Wikimania) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Estimation is from a Asian country, and that includes >>>>>>> accommodation charges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ^ New entry means that the prizes was not awarded previous year. The >>>>>>> WLM international team felt that, as we grow, the number of prizes we >>>>>>> shall >>>>>>> also grow up! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Karthik Nadar. >>>>>>> On behalf of WLM international team. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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