Hmm, yeah, sounds like a common discussion: how high to put the bar. Thanks
for the explanation Andrew, it is helpful to understand the reasoning
behind this decision.


2013/8/19 Andrew Gray <[email protected]>

> Hi Maarten,
>
> Some notes I made a while back on the problems with including Grade II
> (and equivalent):
>
> a) The lists become huge and difficult to maintain;
> b) Grade II contains many of the "non-building" listings; looking at the
> 703 Grade II in Cambridge, the first few on the list include a statue, a
> boathouse, a couple of walls, and some gates. On my way to work, I cycle
> past two telephone boxes, an unremarkable river lock, some respectable
> terraced cottages... all grade II listed, and all within a few hundred
> meters on the same road. They're individually registered, but they're not
> what the general public would consider "listed buildings" (and personally
> I'd argue that a lot simply aren't very interesting from Commons'
> perspective)
> c) Because it contains so many buildings, a lot of them are still people's
> homes. This gets us into some complicated and concerning issues; I am not
> sure there's much benefit to running a contest encouraging people to go and
> take lots of pictures of relatively anonymous houses, and it's quite
> possibly going to backfire if we do. It's still something of an issue with
> WLM in general, but I'd argue that a Grade I or II* building is less likely
> to feel weird in this regard - if you live in it, you're a bit more used to
> the idea of public attention than if you live in a less distinctive
> building. Grade II almost certainly contains a much higher number of
> private residences both proportionately and absolutely.
> Andrew.
>
> On 19 August 2013 21:12, Maarten Dammers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was just clicking around and ended up at https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>> **wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**Monuments_2013_in_the_United_**
>> Kingdom/Eligible_buildings<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_United_Kingdom/Eligible_buildings>.
>>  I compared it to
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Listed_buildings_in_the_**United_Kingdom<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_the_United_Kingdom>and
>>  it looks like your excluding 85% of the listed buildings from
>> participation. Why? :-(
>>
>> Maarten
>>
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