Hi, tl;dr: That tool needs to be disabled immediately. It may be possible to "fix" it to give very clear (and accurate!) warnings about the impending sharing of their data before the sharing takes place but IMHO making sure the wording clear and accurate will take too long (i.e. more than 5 mins) and we should first disable the tool completely while/if that wording is developed.
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> wrote: > Even if Google maps would be okay, why can we not use OSM as the underlying > map? > > I would rather see the tool rebuilt upon something in our spirit if it is > technically possible rather than us lazily accepting a non-free tool. Well regardless, it seems very, very likely that this is not compliant with the WMF privacy policy. Maybe a case could be made that all use of google maps on the projects would violate privacy policy but this case is worse than that (originally based on a cursory reading of the source code but now I've also tested it first hand; still limited because I don't understand hy (or even its alphabet)): There are links created with the text "Ավելացնել կոորդինատ" (google translate makes me think that means approximately "add [a] coordinate(s)") and clicking that will load the google JS. There appears to be no warning to the user that their data will be shared with google when they click that link and I believe this is a clear violation of the WMF privacy policy as currently implemented. see [0] for links I found where you can try this yourself. I'll let legal and others comment on the more general case of "can google maps be used at all" (even if there is prior warning to the user). And I agree with the policy (non-legal) position (which seems to be the point of Jan's message) of heavily favoring FLOSS where we can control the whole stack instead the non-free (e.g. Google Maps). I'm also not addressing the licensing issues beyond to say that 1) it does need to be carefully evaluated by knowledgeable people (i.e. that have researched this before today) from OSM, Wikidata (Katie?), and maybe legal. (Luis?) and 2) "usable on Wikipedia" is IMHO not always the right standard for us to use. There are some cases where we may want to be able to collaborate with other projects like OSM or Wikidata (CC0) and so we have to coordinate with them to see if our actions will complicate or disrupt collaboration. -Jeremy [0] Took a bit of digging but I was able to dig up an example to try first hand. (why didn't you link to one in your initial post??) https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%BC%D5%82%D5%80_%D5%BA%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%B4%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6_%D6%87_%D5%B4%D5%B7%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B5%D5%A9%D5%AB_%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B7%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%AA_%D5%B0%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B7%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B1%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AB_%D6%81%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AF links to https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%B1%D5%BC%D5%A1%D5%BB%D5%A1%D5%B1%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%AB_%D5%BA%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%B4%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6_%D6%87_%D5%B4%D5%B7%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B5%D5%A9%D5%AB_%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B7%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%AA_%D5%B0%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B7%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B1%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AB_%D6%81%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AF_%28%D5%84%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%BF%D5%AB_%D5%B7%D6%80%D5%BB%D5%A1%D5%B6%29 which in turn has links with the text "Ավելացնել կոորդինատ" _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
