I completely agree with Lodewijk's view, and I think that the organizing committee has made a correct decision.
Best, Samat On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Illia, > > Thanks for your email. Family members of the jury members are definitely a > tricky terrain. If your rules stated that family members of jury members > cannot take part, I think it is totally valid to disqualify these images. > > So first of all: yes, of course national rules can be more elaborate than > the international rules. This is quite common actually - for example, > several chapter give out 'Special Awards' or take other national issues in > consideration. Conflict of Interest is one of these. > > Secondly, what qualifies as a family member, is a cultural question - this > is something you should probably consider in the Ukrainian context. I > personally definitely would consider it a family member, but I'm not very > Ukrainian. It becomes more tricky with nephews etc. > > Thirdly you ask if the organizing committee can overrule the jury - now > this is a really tricky one. Again there is some cultural background here > probably. I'm used to a situation where the jury is considered the neutral > body to make final decisions regarding prizes, and nobody would come up > with an idea to overrule the jury, unless there are legal reasons or rules > that require that. But in another country, it might very well be common to > let the jury only be responsible for ranking, and then the organizers make > the formal decision. This is something that is probably to be determined by > your rules. > > I hope this helps. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > > 2013/11/1 Ilya Korniyko <[email protected]> > >> Hi, Ukrainian organizing committe has trouble with one winner. >> >> In 2012 the chapter board set rules for Ukrainian part of the >> competition, which contains a point that organizing committe members, jury >> and their family members (I don't know how to translate precisely, and the >> correct word matters here) cannot take part in the competition. According >> to our rules places are determined by jury but organizing committee can >> disqualify works. >> >> This year we found out only after final jury round that second place is >> authored by one of jury member's father an his wife. While we have no >> direct objections that this choice was unfair or biased, we thougth that it >> would be difficult to understand by other people and may harm the contest >> reputation. We decided not give the prize from the chapter but to present >> this photo among 10 best to international competition and say that it was >> seconf by jury decision but authors were not given prizes due to violation >> of the rules as the organizing committe decided. >> >> Now the authors of this photo ask us questions >> >> 1) There is no prohibition in the international rules for jury members' >> family. Does our chapter have a right to add additional criterias? >> 2) Can a father be qualified as a family member? Is this a good criteria? >> 3) Is this ok for organizing committee to override jury decision in this >> case? >> >> Oranizing committe, the winner and jury member in question are in copy. >> >> Thank you, >> Illia >> >
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