For duplicated filenames you get a warning during upload (at least you did a few months ago). This assumes you are using the upload wizard.
It might be that filenames which trigger the advise filter give an error afterwards instead . If so a bug/enhancement report to do this on the fly would be an option. ------ André Costa GLAM-tekniker Wikimedia Sverige On 1 Sep 2014 20:57, "Lodewijk" <[email protected]> wrote: > the primary reason why i would strongly encourage the new users to pick a > relevant name is to make their life easier - i would hate it to see them > get ugly templates on their talkpage and files renamed because people think > it is problematic. So yeah, maybe you're right, but this seems just the > most sensible thing to advise :) This is the software and community we have > to work with. > > Lodewijk > > > 2014-09-01 20:53 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Selim <[email protected]>: > >> My few cts, >> As a user, I don't care about Filename, honnestly it doesn't bring any >> value to me, it just brings me headache. I don't care how the filesystem of >> the media are stored, what matters to me is the metadata of my file. >> >> I try to give relevant filename, because the community ask for it, due to >> having a software that ridiculously do not fit our needs, but that's the >> only reason why. And I guess some new users are really lost when trying to >> do their first upload. >> >> >> 2014-09-01 20:45 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali <[email protected]>: >> >> Rather than random, a timestamp down to second level would be better. The >>> likelyhood for a previous file to be named like that is close to zero and >>> removes any problem of the need to check if the randomly produced number >>> has been used before. Also the added information has some value as >>> metadata, particulary in comparison to a random number. But still, >>> DSC_XXXXX or IMG_XXXXXX style file names should be prevented. >>> >>> >>> *Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali* >>> >>> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige >>> <http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida> >>> 0729 - 67 29 48 >>> >>> >>> *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till >>> mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* >>> Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to >>>> non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we >>>> wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit >>>> for search results. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Racso >>>> Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) >>>> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition >>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has >>>> notstarted yet... >>>> >>>> It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia >>>> Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that >>>> limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error >>>> occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over >>>> again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about >>>> to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, >>>> and start over again. >>>> >>>> Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. >>>> The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is >>>> already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country. >>>> >>>> That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. >>>> In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need >>>> to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, >>>> they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares >>>> about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, >>>> at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the >>>> error-fixing process as easy as possible. >>>> >>>> For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an >>>> "api-error-unknownerror" >>>> means that the photo filename should be changed. >>>> >>>> Racso >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Yes, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have >>>>> this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it >>>>> is >>>>> highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to >>>>> upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So they were kindly asked to change the filename... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aktron >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Czech Republic >>>>> >>>>> chairman >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> > Od: KaewWiki <[email protected]> >>>>> > Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> > Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 >>>>> > Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has >>>>> notstarted yet... >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Rasco, >>>>> >>>>> I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem. >>>>> >>>>> We should >>>>> (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. >>>>> (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a >>>>> new name -- rather than give an option to retry. >>>>> >>>>> Taweetham >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be >>>>>> discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text >>>>>> for that field can be made clearer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali* >>>>>> >>>>>> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige >>>>>> <http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida> >>>>>> 0729 - 67 29 48 >>>>>> >>>>>> *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till >>>>>> mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* >>>>>> Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the >>>>>>> filename, and it worked. >>>>>>> That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to >>>>>>> append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of >>>>>>> participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with >>>>>>> already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras >>>>>>> (e.g. >>>>>>> DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - >>>>>>> 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. >>>>>>> Racso >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg >>>>>>>> <api-error-unknownerror> >>>>>>>> None of the uploads were successful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Retry failed uploads >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone has done a successful test upload? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > It is now fixed. Thank you. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still >>>>>>>> say that the >>>>>>>> >> contest has not started yet? >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Romaine >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum <[email protected] >>>>>>>> >: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> Same here Pakistan >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 >>>>>>>> >>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 >>>>>>>> has not >>>>>>>> >>> started yet... >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Hello All, >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand >>>>>>>> time or >>>>>>>> >>> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following >>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. >>>>>>>> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still >>>>>>>> share your >>>>>>>> >>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> The URL is >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat= >>>>>>>> 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 >>>>>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>> >>> Taweetham >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>> >>> Pierre-Selim >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves >>>>>>>> Monuments >>>>>>>> >>> mailing list [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pierre-Selim >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
